Posted 12 years ago
artislove
(143 items)
dont know a lot about this piece but i love it to bits because it is very fine made and fortunately colourless all commenteers and lovers are off course welcome!
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Rococo, and very fine indeed! Parian porcelain? French or German? Don't know anything about this except that it's magnificent, superb, and Rococo.
thanks mikko!
Here are two great links for porcelain marks.
http://www.oldandsold.com/pottery/france17.shtml
http://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/resources/fake_n_repro/00.php
Great work, scandi! I second you on this ID. The Old and Sold link above has this very mark - without the numbers beside it. I stopped and lingered over it and then discarded it because I couldn't see the crown mark in the show and tell photo. You have a keen eye, a knowledge of porcelain, and great researching skills. So, does the CT stand for the Administration of Elector Carl Theodore, 1762-1795?
wow great comments guys i love the excitement and i totally agree sorry for pics quality and thanks for great websites! also thanx for the loves vetraio mustangtony scandinavianpieces manikin and mikkochristmas11!
Amy is on the right track with this one!
But is this "Musikgruppe" an original from the 18th century or a modern version? Nymphenberg or Frankenthal?
The problem is discussed on a German collectibles programme Kunst & Krempel for Bayerisches Fernsehen of 11.03.2010.
http://www.br.de/fernsehen/bayerisches-fernsehen/sendungen/kunst-und-krempel/schatzkammer/porzellan/kunst-und-krempel-porzellan-musikgruppe100.html
It will come down to the size of the piece. The original Frankenthal is slightly larger than the modern version. The mark on the modern one is also over the glaze. The mark is that of the initials "CT" with a crown for the founder of the Frankenthal factory Charles Theodore Prince-Elector, Count Palatine and Duke of Bavaria. If there is also a diamond mark on the bottom you know it is a later version as well.
I wonder if 'der Pfaelzer' is Carl Theodore himself in a rococo pastoral setting with the Countess Palatine Elisabeth Auguste of Sulzbach in southern Rheinpfalz in the Paelzerwald?
thanks again prof vetraio!!!! isnt it amazing what effort people make to enjoy art?
thanx toolatetoo!!
many thanks freiheit and pops!!!!
thanx tom61375 for loving this!!!
wonderfull to enjoy something from this picture because i have packed this somewhere since i posted this item lol