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    Posted 12 years ago

    beyemvey
    (214 items)

    This bud vase stands approximately 8" tall, and tapers gradually from about 3" at the base to 1.5" at the rim. The top has been capped with a brass ring to conceal the ground rim. The glass has been blown into a mold to achieve the pattern imitating Loetz's Spiraloptisch decor of concentric rings and wavy lines. Thanks to our friend Alfredo's work with Kralik inkwells, we can say with about 99% certitude that these vases were produced by Kralik. They are usually found in solid colors of red, green, yellow, etc. This one is a bit more unusual in that the glass fades from a dark burgundy color at the top to a more transparent bottom. Overall is an iridescent layer of vivid purples, blues, and golds. This one made the journey to Virginia from across the pond in the UK.

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    1. dlfd911 dlfd911, 12 years ago
      Very cool, the first I have seen in that color.
    2. Londonloetzlearner Londonloetzlearner, 12 years ago
      Fabulous! How did we let this cross the pond?
    3. beyemvey beyemvey, 12 years ago
      Royal Air Mail of course ;-P
    4. Londonloetzlearner Londonloetzlearner, 12 years ago
      Outrageous!!
    5. beyemvey beyemvey, 12 years ago
      It's OK, we descend from a Magna Carta surety & Earls of Norfolk, Suffolk, Oxford, & Clare :-) ... it was either that, or around 80£ GBP that did the trick!
    6. Londonloetzlearner Londonloetzlearner, 12 years ago
      That's quite a pedigree! I could manage the £80 - but not the royal connections ...
    7. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 12 years ago
      We have Spencers way back in our family tree.. because of that my grandmother is convinced we are distant relations to Lady Diana. We didn't get any invitations to the wedding though.. ;)
    8. beyemvey beyemvey, 12 years ago
      Genealogy... another of my hobbies GSO... your grandmother could very well be, but research takes a lot of time and effort. It took three years to do the research in order to satisfactorily prove 25 generations back to Roger le Bigod through his daughter, Mary.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Bigod,_2nd_Earl_of_Norfolk

      Of course, no lands or titles went to younger scions or daughters!
    9. Londonloetzlearner Londonloetzlearner, 12 years ago
      Wow! Very cool. The Bigods are one of my favourite families of that time - along with the Marshalls, with whom they had a marriage connection. Interesting King Henry II connection - if I remember correctly (and I may be wrong) Roger's wife was Ida de Tosny, a former mistress of King Henry and mother of William Longsword, Earl of Salisbury, who was famous, among other things, for staying loyal to King John through Magna Carta and until very near the end. There does not seem to have been much love lost between Roger and his half-brother - and the connection got him no favours from John. I love Plantagenet history!
    10. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 12 years ago
      Wasn't meaning to question your claim, just making fun of my grandmothers. We are also related to Jesse James :)

      Supposedly and more realistically we are related to French royalty that escaped into Switzerland at the time of the revolution but I know very little about that.
    11. beyemvey beyemvey, 12 years ago
      @Al - we all descend from one family of humans living in Africa about 70,000 years ago. I just love history!
    12. beyemvey beyemvey, 12 years ago
      Thanks LLL... Roger's daughter Mary married Ranulf Fitz Robert, Lord of Middleham, of what would eventually become the Fitz Randolph family. We descend through their younger son.
    13. beyemvey beyemvey, 12 years ago
      LLL - William Longespee would have been Roger's step-son, and Hugh le Bigod's half brother. Roger himself did not get along with his half brothers either. His mother was Juliana de Vere, who divorced his father, and his step-mother, Gundreda de Beaumont promoted her own sons for the Earldom of Norfolk. It took several years for him to solidify his claim to the title. Henry II apparently gave his ward Ida de Tosny (and mistresss - and mother of his illegitimate son) to Roger. Quite a medieval soap opera :-)
    14. beyemvey beyemvey, 12 years ago
      GSO - I undertook the study to provide my children with knowledge of our ancestry, which includes the lowly along with the lofty. In addition to the nobility, our family includes AEolian islanders, German farmers, a French sailor who came over with d'Estaing's fleet to fight for the Americans, several Welsh & English colonists who were American soldiers during the Revolutionary War, several Scottish Highlanders who fought on the Tory side during the same war, some Puritans, Quakers, abolitionists who ran stops on the Underground Railroad... etc. I enjoy doing the research because it makes me feel connected to history.
    15. Londonloetzlearner Londonloetzlearner, 12 years ago
      Yes -sorry, I get my generations wrong off the cuff. Too many Hughs and Rogers! I remember Roger's story - as I recall, it wasn't just the step-mother, Henry himself had an antipathy to the Bigods, which gave the Beaumonts room to manoeuvre. They were always a family for grabbing the main chance. As I remember, there was a rapprochement between Henry and Roger that effectively traded getting the title for taking Henry's discarded mistress off his hands. I have a vague recollection that Longespee was pretty young at the time, but was kept at Court, so there is a suggestion he was very jealous that his half-siblings had his mother and he did not - and that his younger brother got the Norfolk title where he had nothing - until he married Ela Of Salisbury.
      Middleham- would that be a Neville connection? I have a vague recollection that Richard III was born and/or brought up at Middleham Castle...
      Sorry - I love this stuff! I can bore for England on the subject.
    16. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 12 years ago
      How lucky for you that you were able to find that kind of detail on your ancestors. We have some very active genealogists in our family but for the most part all we have are names and dates.. They have it traced back to 1360 or so on one side but very little actual information that I've seen.
    17. beyemvey beyemvey, 12 years ago
      Ranulph Fitz Robert & Mary Bigod had two sons, Ralph & Ranulph. The eldest, Ralph Fitz Ranulph, inherited Middleham. He had only daughters, the eldest of whom married a Neville. It was through them that Middleham Castle passed into the hands of Richard III. The youngest son, Ranulph Fitz Ranulph inherited Spennythorne, Yorkshire. It is through him that the modern Fitz Randolph family came to be.
    18. Londonloetzlearner Londonloetzlearner, 12 years ago
      Ah ha! I thought there had to be a connection. I'm not so hot on marriages into the Nevilles until Joan Beaufort, daughter of John of Gaunt, and mother of Cecily Neville, who was of course the mother of Edward IV and Richard III.

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