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    Posted 12 years ago

    nldionne
    (251 items)

    Have any of you ever seen glass with this rough powdery look? It is a small vase only about 5 inches tall. Saw it at the thrift store, had never seen before so thought I'd try to find out. Thanks!

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    1. nldionne nldionne, 12 years ago
      Thanks Bellin. Maybe AmberRose won't see it, she says I'm going to the dark side every time I post something that's not pottery:)
    2. RussTenale RussTenale, 12 years ago
      Excuse my thoughts, that looks like a reaction on the glass.
    3. RussTenale RussTenale, 12 years ago
      Calcification?
    4. nldionne nldionne, 12 years ago
      Hi Russ, might be. Have no idea if it is meant to be or not.
    5. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      It's supposed to look like it has been in the ground for a thousand years or so. It is imitating Roman glass. The color combo too. That powdery look has an Italian term 'scavo' or excavated. The Chinese are imitating these techniques that the Italians had been copying from the Romans.
    6. nldionne nldionne, 12 years ago
      Thanks Vetraio. I was just curious as to whether this was intentional. As always appreciate your help!
    7. RussTenale RussTenale, 12 years ago
      Excuse my thoughts, even if this was in the ground for a thousand years, this would be a result of a reaction on the glass, correct? and never originally to appear like this. So there is no intended finish applied to an original piece, other than these modern ones for deception.
    8. nldionne nldionne, 12 years ago
      Vetraio?
    9. Manikin Manikin, 12 years ago
      Beautiful ! love the colors :-)
    10. nldionne nldionne, 12 years ago
      Thanks mustang, justanovice and manikin
    11. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Some are meant to deceive and some were meant to copy an ancient form found when we finally got round to digging up old glass. Iridescent glass is imitating the same thing. Tiffany liked the Roman and Syrian glass that he saw in the V&A in London. He imitated it these forms and finishes. But not just him, other factories too. Renaissance glass was copying much earlier forms. You can look on the net and see pictures of Roman glass. Roman doesn't mean made in Rome: they imported from a variety of Middle Eastern sources, I think. It lay buried for millennia and much is still there in the ground, I suppose. But archaeology created a taste for ancient objects. Copyists abound even now for this same stuff. If you''d like to see some really good examples of 'scavo' google that word and Cenedese. The same finish on modern forms. Enjoy.
    12. nldionne nldionne, 12 years ago
      Thanks for your expertise Vetraio;)
      Hope this answers your question Russ.
    13. RussTenale RussTenale, 12 years ago
      Sorry, the old glass that was dug up from ancient ruin sites, did it look distressed when made one thousand years ago or is the mold/crust on the surface of the glass from a result of age?
    14. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Hi Russ
      Check out this article.
      Excavated glass could be from under the earth and the glass had been affected by chemical action or beneath the sea and weathered there.
      http://www.antiquetrader.com/features/artistry_of_ancient_roman_glass
    15. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      The original surfaces have changed over time.
      Google "roman glass' and look at images section as you'll see sites like the following:
      Here are some products available in the UAE.
      http://www.barakatgalleryuae.com/ancientglass.html
    16. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      In the British Museum in London is an amazing vase the Portland Vase that dates to AD 5 and AD 25. High quality work at the time. It was excavated around 1582. Note the difference in the quality.
      Anything two thousand years old will have changed over time except gold I suppose.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_Vase
    17. RussTenale RussTenale, 12 years ago
      Excuse my thoughts, You have confirmed my suspicions, this "look", whether recreated to copy or deceive, or even on dug up ruins, is how they would have been found after thousands of years, not as they were made. Very interesting. Thank you.
    18. nldionne nldionne, 12 years ago
      Thanks Czechman, Dasullywon and Junkman.
    19. RussTenale RussTenale, 12 years ago
      Yes, answered my question. Thank You.
    20. Vintage_Joe Vintage_Joe, 12 years ago
      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/80119-really-old-roman-glass-or-tourist-stuff
      Here is one my item.
      I am not expert of roman glass any kind, but when i look my vase i can imagine that this vase has been under water for very long time. Maybe someone take it from Rhodos, there is still lot of roman glass and amphoras in the sea.
    21. nldionne nldionne, 12 years ago
      Thanks Geno
    22. nldionne nldionne, 12 years ago
      Thanks Petey
    23. nldionne nldionne, 12 years ago
      Thanks Mikko

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