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    Posted 12 years ago

    lbaker1947
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    This was my mothers, grandmothers doll (1855-1925) . Given to my mom and then given to me.

    Bisque head, composite arms and legs. Other parts are stuffed cloth.

    He is 14" tall. Have taken many pictures.

    MARKINGS: Head shoulder piece. Back bottom right. Indented is 30 B4 above that very lightly is mark similar to lightning 1/8" and under that GO or 60 not sure.

    Has a clothes outfit. Hand sewn, velvet pants and jacket, silk (shinny material) lined, laced shirt, plain white one piece undergarment. Snaps hold the pieces together.

    Need some help, I don't know anything about dolls but would like to learn something about this doll. Can anyone help me. Have been looking all over the Internet but can't find anything like this.

    Thank you.

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    1. inky inky, 12 years ago
      Manikin will be along shortly and I am sure will be able to help you, she is a font of knowledge....:-)
    2. lbaker1947, 12 years ago
      Thank you Inky, what a great site and a great group of collectors. I've been a collector of different things throughout my life.

      BUT don't know anything about dolls. I found Manakin email on her profile and emailed her last night.

      Thank you again.

      Lynn
    3. Manikin Manikin, 12 years ago
      Hi Ibaker and welcome to CW . Your doll is referred to as " American School Boy "
      Kestner JDK American School Boy German Bisque Shoulder head Doll .The J.D. Kestner doll company made dolls in Germany, in the Waltershausen, Thuringia region, for over 90 years. The earliest dolls were wood and papier mache, and then china, but the dolls that the company is best known for are the bisque dolls from the late 1800s into the early 1900s. The company produced dolls of many molds and types--the bisque dolls from the company included child dolls, character dolls, all-bisque dolls, lady dolls, baby dolls, and many others.
      Your wonderful doll has a replaced body which many times were replaced because cloth became so worn and tore that a new one had to made as in the case of yours . He is sought after doll by collectors and dates mid to late 1800's
      Thanks for sharing him .
      He is Bisque with handblown glass eyes and molded hair . I will see if I can find a link to him or you can google American School Boy Germany .
    4. Manikin Manikin, 12 years ago
      PS Thank you for posting a great close up of his face ! That really helps . Nice photography !
    5. lbaker1947, 12 years ago
      Thank you so much, you are very good and very kind to share your knowledge. Went to the Internet, with your info, and founds tons of information. My wife read your profile, she said tell her we have 700+ 45's. Thank you again.

      Lynn
    6. Manikin Manikin, 12 years ago
      Your welcome and glad to help you . Gotta love those 45's :-))))))
    7. lbaker1947, 12 years ago
      Question, marking on the Kestner dolls. Mine only has the model number. Not marked with Germany or Company marks. Some comments on the Internet for Kestner gives the impression that only model number dates them to an earlier period then the ones with "country of origin" or company markings.

      Any thoughts on this.

      Again thank you for your time.

      Lynn
    8. Manikin Manikin, 12 years ago
      Kestner did not always mark their doll with their name early on . It is not unusual to find them unmarked but it is a kestner . The numbers refer to head size and they did not have a model number on some of their dolls . It was made by them :-) They produced some of the finest German dolls during the time of bisque dolls .
    9. lbaker1947, 12 years ago
      Thank you again, mystery solved.
    10. Manikin Manikin, 12 years ago
      Here is one with your marks it was not made by Ling as Kling boys had a bell on marking . Yours is what we call attributed to a Company . Meaning after many years of people studying dolls you begin to see the quality and markers work . Years ago yours was attributed to kestner . There were a few others that made one similar and call same name but they have small differences mainly in quality . I see on ebay now that is a reproduction and listed as antique
      here is one that sold
      http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-RARE-GERMAN-AMERICAN-SCHOOLBOY-BISQUE-HEAD-w-CLOSED-MOUTH-GLASS-EYES-WOW-/160949606071?pt=US_Dolls_Bears_Toys&hash=item25795816b7&nma=true&si=invljFSviryBAxDyJ73LADEPWfc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

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