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Posted 12 years ago
MowerPR
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I am trying to determine the age of my grandmother's clock.
It is 22" high and 15" wide at the base.
My mother remembers it being in her mother's living room in the early 1900's.
Thank you
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Nice calendar clock. I can't find "Leopold" in any of my references. Any chance you could include a photo of the movement? I would be looking for manufacturer's name or trademark. Is "Leopold" the model name or the name of the manufacturer? Is there any more information on the bottom of the blue instruction label?
Thank you. The white label on the back clearly seems to indicate that AMERICAN MANUFACTURE, Leopold. The blue label is nearly gone with only some sentences of "how to" remaining. I have taken and posted a picture of the movement. There appears to be the number 1 on the upper left corner of the frame movement.
Hi, where did you post the movement photo?
There should be 4 pictures on my post. I uploaded the movement picture this afternoon.
Thank you
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I see it now. This is a very nice clock! I can't find any additional information on it. If another collector here doesn't recognize it, you might try posting in on the National Association of Watch and Clock Collectors message board. See: http://mb.nawcc.org/. Good luck and thanks for taking the time to share some photos of your heirloom with us.
I think the age may be c1890 and I am wondering if Leopold may have been the store that the clock was sold through...because your clock is very much like an American Ansonia clock.. if you google images it may help with your research!..nice clock...good luck..:-)
Bruce99 and inky - I found a "Calender Kitchen Clock" on the NAWCC Forum that appears nearly identical with the exception of the design on the glass door and the color of one of the hands. One of the entries makes it a Waterbury kitchen calendar clock dated 1895-1900. Perhaps you have the ability to view all the entries. Thank you all.
I've exhausted my reference materials on both Calendar and Wood Mantel (Kitchen style) clocks MowerPR.
Of the manufacturers I've looked at (Tran Duy Ly's books on Seth Thomas, Waterbury, New Haven, Ingraham, Sessions and Ansonia) I agree with you that a few Waterbury models come the closest, but they are not a match. I hope that I haven't missed it. There's definitely no model listed in his books called the Leopold and I've leafed through the illustrations as well.
If you find a match of the wood pattern, then I would say that you've found the clock. The glass stencil pattern may have varied within the model or what you have may not be original although it does seem to suit the clock well. The hands are similar, but they are not the same. The minute hand is a variant of the "Club" style and the Hour hand appears to be damaged but from what I can see, it looks like a different "Club" variant...so while they are very distinctive, I don't know if either one is original.
I believe that Gilbert made a number of "Kitchen Style" Calendar clocks but I'm not certain as I do not have any reference materials for that company.
Tran Duy Ly catalogs a lot of models but he didn't list them all. Perhaps this is a Waterbury. Also, there were a lot of American Clock Manufacturers in the late 1800's when this clock may have been made. Perhaps your clock is from one of the smaller companies.
I think your best bet is to post your photos on the NAWCC's website under "Clocks General" and ask for help. It's a free area, you just can't ask for appraisals there.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help to you. It's really a nice example of this type of antique clock. Good luck.
Based on the near identical clock shown at NAWCC, I make it a Waterbury dating around 1895-1905.
Thank you
Do you still have this Waterbury Leopold? I have one too. I can share info about it.
I will say this in this way. I have my grandmothers green/black Seth Thomas adamantine 89C movement clock. Have fully disassembled it. It had a bit of bushing wear on a couple but nothing major. Left it alone. Most important is it had not been oiled at points 30+ years. Everyone in my family died and I grabbed this clock from the house before the auctioneers could. It run s perfect 08/23. I love it. Two other bim-bam clocks too
Leopold is a gong the hour, one gong half hour. Waterbury mass produced these after tooled up to the tune of 600,000 a month. Surpassed Seth, Ansonia, Newhaven, etc.
Re-Timing in the calendar date advance pointer was interesting. I had to learn and test out something all now deceased Waterbury employees had created. It is just a pin on a gear. I set mine to advance at 12:30am. A couple times rotating the movement to get it to the exact gear setting. It rotates throughout the daybbut you only want it to advance at midnight. Per the instructions, do Not move the calendar hand between 8 and 2. It holds true. Prior owner had. Jacked it up.