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    Posted 11 years ago

    kralik1928
    (202 items)

    I think this is an early version of the 3-handle pieces that were popular in the lat 1920's. The piece is in a light green with red brown marbled internally. I have seen this decor before on pieces attributed to Loetz in some designer shapes. The Handles are very wide and applied loosely, They are not prefab'd like the green vase you see on Pic. 4... the shape is also different because the body is taller in the "stovepipe neck" and the handles are in a slight angle. This shape is closer to the Red piece with the three scenes enameled in (seen in an earlier post). This particular style of three handle vase has been seen in two other shapes before. Opinions welcome

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    1. kralik1928 kralik1928, 11 years ago
      It could be, the glass reminds my if recycled glass bottles. I will do shape comparisons of the other two pieces too, they don't quite match... This example is the least matching and also becomes a new shape
    2. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 11 years ago
      These are in the PMC as 1914. They tag doesn't address them specifically but I think (from their style and space in situ) that they are a form of chalcedone glass

      https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/eK9-cZYrA8C2BvGbU8S4HviepaC6HmOqHRqF2S98L-U?feat=directlink

      https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/9YAKcWMAXBYhdLOJOzEF9viepaC6HmOqHRqF2S98L-U?feat=directlink
      https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/gt0uVMMGawmO0RjQoJc8fviepaC6HmOqHRqF2S98L-U?feat=directlink

      There were four items on that bottom shelf. teh two to the left mentioned in the shelf card are the ones that are not this exact pattern and color.
    3. kralik1928 kralik1928, 11 years ago
      WoW, great pics. they had been attributed to hoffmann before (the simple bowl on the right) i was not convinced because of the quality of the glass. (just because the decor is the same does not mean it is the same designer every time you see that technique...but i am inclined to think they may be early versions (1914) because they are not quite (production) right. even you pic shows a ballooned-out vase and not the sharp angles you see on the tango versions. thank you for the great info!!
    4. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 11 years ago
      Gotta be careful with that though because it says the two on the left. which are the other two vases. it doesn't say that hoffman designed the two that look like this one. it leaves it hanging but because it's specific about the other two vs the two that looks like this it makes me think that hoffman did NOT design the ones that look like yours. Just that they are the same basic glass and were in one of the expos.
    5. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 11 years ago
      Or I guess it could be unknown as to their status in design.. I dunno.
    6. kralik1928 kralik1928, 11 years ago
      yes, very important clarification, thank you.
      the attribution of the two on the left have been made as Hoffmann pieces in literature as well... I stated that I thought they would not necessarily apply to the pieces on the right because they are so different. I can infer from the technique that they were from the earlier period of Tango 3-handle production though because of the use and style of the technique (not everyone has to make that leap).

      perhaps these were prototypes to the tango series?
      thanx GSO
    7. kralik1928 kralik1928, 11 years ago
      Last clarification gso- in your museum pic from your link:
      (L to R)
      1. Attributed to Hoffmann in Ricke book
      2. Attributed to Hoffmann in Passau museum
      3. Not attributed
      4. Attributed to Hoffmann in a German auction (reputable) but it is not known if they were referring to the shape, decor, or both... I have seen the same shape attributed to this designer when the decor was a Titania piece

      I do not call my three handle piece a "Hoff" piece

      Thanx for the loves, links and opinions

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