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    Posted 11 years ago

    speedcrank
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    just would like some info from those who may know...15 1/2" frame..no body, and rear wheels only. 3 coil-spring motor with a 'shiftable' 8-gear tranny and planetary rear end. front end steering gear is there. had this in my attic for years, to me looks like 1920's (?) i'm no expert but think this may be pretty rare. any info would be appreciated..age, maker, value? thank you so much.

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    1. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 11 years ago
      I'm more interested in what it is than age, maker or value. I'm thinking it might be a technician's basic model for drive system for an automobile. Even appears to have leaf-springs to show the effects on the planetary gears. I think you have a rare item that dates to around 1900. Would love to study it 1 on1. Is the round thing an elec. motor?
    2. kerry10456 kerry10456, 11 years ago
      The "motor" Lucas is a clock works , it appears as you said, a basic draft of self propeled wagon, early automobile.
    3. sarahoff sarahoff, 11 years ago
      What a cool thing to find in your attic!
    4. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 11 years ago
      Kerry, I've never seen a clock mech. with smooth wheels, planetary gears(with oil pan) & shifting gears. maybe the gears are for DST? Leaf springs? Give me some reasoning.
    5. speedcrank, 11 years ago
      hi blunderbuss--the 'motor' is clockwork...unusual in that it has 3 spiral springs in tandem..i assume to prolong the 'run time'. i think there may have been a body on it at one time as the frame has a couple tabs attached. the leaf springs are there but are more ornamental..they don't actually work. i should add there's an attachment on the driveshaft that moves the gears into position for what looks like 3 forward speeds (?) and reverse! thx for the input1
    6. speedcrank, 11 years ago
      thx sarahoff, yeah it is pretty neat...
    7. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 11 years ago
      Wha a ting mon! Sure had me blud'clos r'as going. Still an intriguing mechanism.
    8. kerry10456 kerry10456, 11 years ago
      Lucas, just got back, A clockwork motor is a clockwork device mechanically powered by a mainspring, a spiral torsion spring of metal ribbon. Energy is stored in the mainspring manually by winding it up, turning a key attached to a ratchet which twists the mainspring tighter. Then the force of the mainspring turns the clockwork's gears, until the stored energy is used up.
    9. TubeAmp TubeAmp, 11 years ago
      Marklin tinplate clockwork Constructor Car, Lehmann, or Meccano Constructor Car toys were popular.

      T A
    10. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 11 years ago
      Kerry, I already knew that. The other things just didn't make sense to me. Oh well, I was wrong once. Think it had to do with what month it was. Maybe it was what year? LOL
    11. kerry10456 kerry10456, 11 years ago
      LOL Lucas, I figured you did, with your "Trade"
    12. speedcrank, 11 years ago
      hi guys- i'm thinking, due to it's frame size (15.5") this was more likely an early marx or keystone?
    13. AzTom AzTom, 11 years ago
      Welcome to CW speedcrank

      I'm thinking Structo. I know they made kits similar to erector sets. I'll dig through some reference material in the next day or so.

      Awesome piece!
    14. AzTom AzTom, 11 years ago
      That didn't take long, Here you go!

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/1919-STRUCTO-DELUXE-AUTO-BUILDER-PRESSED-STEEL-RUNABOUT-CAR-WINDUP-RESTORED-/331032673311
    15. gargoylecollector gargoylecollector, 11 years ago
      Good job AzTom!I knew you would know!
    16. AzTom AzTom, 11 years ago
      Thanks Gargoy, I remembered seeing something like it in one of my old toy catalogs, ebay was quicker search than digging by books out.
    17. speedcrank, 11 years ago
      aztom! good work, thank you sir! this does indeed seem like the same item...now if i only had front wheels and a body! again thank you, it's neat to know what it 'was'.
    18. walksoftly walksoftly, 11 years ago
      There are two clockwork cars with transmissions here on CW.
      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/85241-old-toy-car?in=1469#comment-352620

      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/92336-red-metal-sports-car

    19. speedcrank, 11 years ago
      thank you walksoftly--aztom seems to have nailed it...it's the basis of a 1919 structo 'build it yourself' car...unfortunately only engine and running gear complete...
    20. walksoftly walksoftly, 11 years ago
      Yes I realize that, my post was just to link this to the other clockwork cars & to show how those ones were shifted.
    21. SuperDuty900, 4 years ago
      too cool!!!!!

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