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Pottery8754 of 12310Art Nouveau vase, unknown designer for Johann von Schwarz/Norica. Mount by Hans Peter for Juventa. Model 217persian (iran) pair of vases
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    Posted 11 years ago

    austrohung…
    (584 items)

    This is the second vase by the same unkonw maker we've got.

    This vase shows a more geometric shape than the first floral one. In fact I see it very in the style of Van de Velde... It has a glossy finishing and is mounted on patinated bronze. The design on the mounting also shows shapes that reminds me of Belgian or Dutch Art Nouveau. It's a pretty recent add on to Carlos's colection and the seller really said nothing about it. So we've got a total mistery here. Just like the other vase is, this one's fully marked and, once again, unsigned, and bears no visible mark on the mounting.

    A funny thing about this vase is that it could work fine without the bronze mounting, whereas the other one with the floral mounting, couldn't possibly work without it.

    We do believe the the pottery work comes from the same potter, and probably the mountings would come from different workshops (just guessing here).

    Do these images ring any bell for anyone???

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    Comments

    1. SEAN68 SEAN68, 11 years ago
      Very beautiful!!!
    2. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Thanks Sean... so you don't like the first one? ;) LOL

      Thanks Czech for your love!!!
    3. SEAN68 SEAN68, 11 years ago
      I love the first one as well , they are both stunning!!
    4. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Thanks for loving it Agh, Famatta and Violet!!!
    5. inky inky, 11 years ago
      Fabulous!...:-)
    6. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Thanks inky!
    7. cogito cogito, 11 years ago
      Ah ha! I was wondering who my competition was for this piece! Great taste! I have no clue who produced it, though I strongly suspect it is German…particularly given its origins in the sale/auction. The mount is very Jugendstil.
    8. fledermaus fledermaus, 11 years ago
      Fantastic Jugendstil! May be Otto Schulz?
    9. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Well, cogito, if you were after it too that means this vase is a great piece!!! :)

      Really thinking about the Otto Schultz/Eckmann possibility, as well as probably Eugene Baudin, but they always signed their pieces...

      Thanks bratjdd, GTMOOM, DrFluffy, fledermaus, cogito, valentino and vet for your love!
    10. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Thanks BelleEpoque and mike!!!
    11. cogito cogito, 11 years ago
      You flatter me...dangerous to feed my ego. ;)
      Seriously, though, I'm going to scout out what I can find on these pieces. It is helpful that you have multiple examples. The "R" likely references the manufacturer, while the form designs are likely by others. Any markings on the mounts?
      BTW - they are definitely not by Baudin.
    12. Manikin Manikin, 11 years ago
      Very nice austro I can't help ID it you all are teaching me about glassware but I see shapes and my mind visualizes objects and I thought of a robot when I saw the first photo of this wonderful piece :-)
    13. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Thanks for Mani and Smiata!

      @cogito: the onñy marking on the mounts are the numbers you can see on piv No.4... part from that, there's no marking at all.

      A robot? :)
    14. antiquerose antiquerose, 11 years ago
      Super piece.....I love!!
    15. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Thanks rose! If only we could identify it!
    16. AmberRose AmberRose, 11 years ago
      Sorry I missed the first pass on this one. What an interesting meld of the industrial mounting and the more traditional pottery. I don't know if I am thinking German because of that or because it is being discussed.
      Hope you are feeling better!
      Woke up to yet another snowstorm raging. Not going to be a fun day.
    17. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      I don't think the mounting is that industrial, ony it uses "modern ways" to join the pieces ;)
      Everything points out they're either Belgian or most probably German... but I wish someone could find some really helpful hint about them :)

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