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    Posted 11 years ago

    austrohung…
    (584 items)

    Here's another set of unknown origin glass items.

    Vases 2 and 3 seem to be from the same maker, or some times I think so :) I've been told they could be British

    No.4 reminds a lot of the Josef Hoffmann's vases for Moser, but sadly isn't one of them. Does anyone recognize the WW logo at the base?

    As for vase 1... I love that highly glossy surface of it!

    Van anyone help identifying them, please?

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    1. SEAN68 SEAN68, 11 years ago
      Somke stunner , to make my brain work , love these austro!!
    2. SEAN68 SEAN68, 11 years ago
      some!! sorry for the typo!!
    3. inky inky, 11 years ago
      looovely!...:-)
    4. antiquerose antiquerose, 11 years ago
      Drop Dead Gorgeous!!
    5. AnneLanders AnneLanders, 11 years ago
      very nice, great curves, beautiful colours...
    6. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Thanks Czechman! I call them "the instestine vases" myself :) but your pink one looks more like brains, LOL

      Thanks czechman, antiquerose, DrFluffy, ho2cultcha, mike, Moonstone, racer, agh, inky, Sean, Ian and vet for your loves and/or comments!

      Following Czech's link and his chat with greatsnowyowl I've just seen a Harrach vase that reminds a lot of the first one here... anyone can confirm it could be by Harrach?
    7. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Thanks Anne!!!
    8. Gracay2004 Gracay2004, 11 years ago
      Beautiful, especially number 1!
    9. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Thanks Gracay!!! That's the one I'd like the most to identify, as i really really like it :)

      Thanks charcoal for loving it! ;)
    10. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Thanks for loving it Anne, charcoal and Budek!!!
    11. Vintagefran Vintagefran, 11 years ago
      Lovely vases Austrohungaro. Any luck tracing the WW?
    12. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Thanks Fran!!!

      No luck at all :(
    13. SEAN68 SEAN68, 11 years ago
      Wilhelm Wagenfeld ? for the blue one....
    14. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Mmmm... I think he wouldn't have arrived to be such a good designer making a design from 1900 in the 1930s ;) although the WW fits ;)

      I've found out that there were quite a few companies imitating the Wiener Werkstaatte, even using two o three W's in their logos. That's why the Wiener Werkstaette sued most of them :) I guess this is one of their pieces but... from which one? :)
    15. Trey Trey, 11 years ago
      The first one looks like what happens when you mix water and oil, very neat.
    16. Katzl Katzl, 11 years ago
      There is a homepage called europeiana that has photos from different museum collections. I looked at Josef Hoffmann glass things there, and saw one vase (claimed to be Josef Hoffmann by a museum) that had a ww mark that was different to the common ww monogram. It was similar to the one on your blue vase, but I'm not sure if it was really the same.
      Here is a link to the homepage: http://www.europeana.eu/
    17. Katzl Katzl, 11 years ago
      Oh, I found it!
      It's not exactly the same but quite similar:
      http://ceres.mcu.es/pages/Viewer?accion=41&Museo=&AMuseo=MNAD&Ninv=CE25031&txt_id_imagen=2&txt_rotar=0&txt_contraste=0&txt_zoom=10&cabecera=N&viewName=visorZoom
    18. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Thanks for the info Katzl. Carlos thought the vase was designed by Hoffmann, but this WW signature doesn't seem to be a registered Wiener Werskstätte one... It will be simply great if it ends up being an actual Hoffmann design :) -it would be our third one!!!-.

      The most amazing thing is this green one you tells us about is (unfortunately, not on display) in the Museum of Decorative Arts in Madrid... about three km from our place :)
    19. Katzl Katzl, 11 years ago
      Haha, oh really!! How nice to have such a museum almost as neighbor!! :)
      And wow!! - that you have 2 Hoffmanns already!

      That website europeana- I think it's an ongoing project to make museum collections in europe accessible online, so maybe more photos will be available there in the future..

      It's very interesting to see if you can find out something about the vase! Do you have the Neuwirth book about the WW trademarks? And the one on industrial design..
      Asking the MAK experts costs I think, and maybe they don't answer only from looking at photos... Do you know other experts to ask about such things?
      (And the Karolinsky archive has some other photos than the Mak: http://archive.woka.com/)
      The shape of the vase on this sketch comes close I think, but still, it's a bit different... http://www.sammlungen.mak.at/sdb/do/detail.state?obj_id=87418&obj_index=178&returnstate=search
    20. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 11 years ago
      Carlos recognizes the green bowl at the MNAD in Madrid as a design by Hoffmann (he's got some picture of a Hoffmann signed simmilar one). The bad thing about this museum is that it's sort of a neglected one. It's got an amazing collection -as they proved a few months ago with an exhibition on its 100th anniversary- but the building that holds it isn't big enough, so a huge part of the collection cannot be on display but stored somewhere else (which is the same problem I've got with my glass and design collection, haha). I really think it should be the next museum to suffer a radical reform and a newer, bigger building.

      Some years ago the Museum received the donation of the Thorsten Bröhan collection with amazing glass from Lötz, the Bauhaus, Riemerschmd... I think the green bowl must have arrived with the Bröhan donation.

      By the way, I just checked the distance from our place to the museum: 2,4 km, which means a 31 minutes walk :) After an extra 7 minutes walk you arrive to the Prado Museum :)

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