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    Posted 11 years ago

    surfdub66
    (466 items)

    This lovely little pot was made in china ,2" high x nearly 4" across, it has the marks for ming dynasty , chia ching, which would make it very old and valuable but I havn't had any luck in finding out for sure, ive been to the local museum and they said it looks to be authentic but wanted to send it to London for age tests which I didnt want to do!! (Post/Breakages??)
    I took it to local auction rooms they couldnt tell me , so I took it to an oriental antique dealer who said if it were his he would sell it as original and did I want to sell it!
    I took it to the Antiques roadshow in uk , they had a really good look amongst themselves and said its poss a 19c pot made to commemorate past dynastys rather than a copy but still a little jem..
    ive had this pot for 20+ years and still dont know anything about it??
    I suppose ill have to make the trip to the national museum in London to have the age tested to be sure unless someone on here can tell me more ??
    Any info at all would be much appreciated

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    Comments

    1. SEAN68 SEAN68, 11 years ago
      Happy Easter!!!
    2. surfdub66 surfdub66, 11 years ago
      Thanx ..Happy easter to you sean !
      and everyone else
    3. geo26e geo26e, 11 years ago
      Hi surfdub66, I am not an expect but found this link for you :http://www.gotheborg.com/marks/mingmarks.shtml

      Your piece relates to 1522-1566 Jiajing period. The guys at the UK antique roadshow are usually fairly knowledgeable. Best of luck and happy Easter to you! George.
    4. surfdub66 surfdub66, 11 years ago
      Thanx george, ill check it out .. happy easter to u too .. ;-)
    5. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      insert ( on BS)
    6. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      f i wrote an elaborate assesment but lost is bbbbbbbbbrrrr all over again, so i do it the short way

      certainly not jiajing 1522-1566, because inner design is very often mandatory , the mark is sloppy ( you have to see, the squares in the right under symbol on the back - and the burgundy - green tonality is off

      the mod is chasing the pearl by an dragon design the floating tomato in the middle is the pearl

      so for discussion we do a rough division , namely an revival piece , lets say grosso modo guangxhu

      it,s possible , but actually even about that i got serious doubts , it is artistically not so real refined , and the dragon lacks some right proportions

      what worrying is IMO on the back is the outer permeability or dilution of the beehive crackle or (dilution )of the glazing is troubelsome even when it could be eggshell porcelain , which IMO it aint , is an not so well sign

      there is a black-silvertype of rim which is a bit strange you should expext an corroded coffee rim

      so actuallty i wonder did they combine the bowl with an Qianqian Cai - rim and than we are not in Fin DE SIecle porcelain but in early 20 century, imo this could be likely

      Regards WAki

    7. surfdub66 surfdub66, 2 years ago
      Apostata , what don’t you know !!
      Many thanks for your knowledge & I’m pretty sure your right , I’ve had a few people say similar now , all late 19th c early 20th c so definitely I would say ..
      Thankyou, sd
    8. apostata apostata, 7 months ago
      there is no way out of the guangxu mark not qianlong and not jaiging see left upper mark, there is no key mark left for qianlong and there no baqkslashing left upper symbol for the jiaging

      the only thing that could happen is antidating early republic

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