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    Posted 10 years ago

    mssue64
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    I bought this plate from a church sale,I don't know if it's Chinese or Japanese,really a beautiful plate,but I would love to know what it's called or who the makers are,all handpainted edges are thin glazed over except the edge of the bottom rim as shown in picture,hope someone can help.

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    1. kat22 kat22, 10 years ago
      i am not thinking either - these was a period late 1800's where europe copied the oriental as in chinoiserie and japonisme- this i think is an imari copy (not an expert please only my thoughts - i love oriental and am studying them, so may be wrong) - chinese and japanese are all hand painted - and well done . i do think it has age but as i said just my ho

      http://nancysdailydish.net/collections/vendors?q=Booths
      https://www.google.co.za/search?q=chinoiserie+imari+style+plate&client=firefox-a&hs=j1G&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=nts&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=sMEaVM-XL4qy7Ab1xIGgCw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=607
    2. mssue64, 10 years ago
      Thanks Kat22,it is all hand painted,I've looked at some other plates but still can't find one like mine but I will continue to search
    3. mssue64, 10 years ago
      WOW! thanks so much idcloisonne! almost identical to my plate,I love this site!! again thanks1
    4. antiquefreek antiquefreek, 10 years ago
      google Imari , there are many dishes like this, I've owned quite a few, still have some! Most were made around 1850 or earlier ,Imari was a booming town with a huge pottery business famous for these colors! And the scalloped edges and cartouche type inset sections are really what identifies it as Imari.
    5. mssue64, 10 years ago
      Thanks antiquefreek so very much!!!!!
    6. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      well what was the conclusion here , because i don,t understand the assessment ?
    7. mssue64, 2 years ago
      Thanks Kat22!
    8. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      ok i stay out of this, this is strangest assessment i have seen in a few years,

      cute charger

    9. mssue64, 2 years ago
      apostata I believe the conclusion is Imari around 1850 or earlier
    10. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      i should have stayed out this my excuses i only make enemies this way , rather hypocrital of me

      i don,t know precisly what the statement is of kat 22 or idcloisonne,but let,s do some assumptions

      if you take the point of vieuw pre late EDO periode (1850), IMO, is an imari 3 color elaborate kyoho point of vieuw , well the six -sun is different , and if the kyoto period point of , you need garlands on the reverse of the plate( pursui flowers or ribbons) and no luster radiation

      IMO they try to represent a turn of the century imari ( +-1900 ) but something strange is going on , it is presse trough ware ( type of transfer) see double ring obverse , there is no stroking in the fluidum of the rings

      the strange thing is the lack of corrosion on the reverse bottom stand ( so called rotten straw corrosion ) and it is strange the double ring on the reverse is missing . and there are no garlands, and it is heavy potting , and there are dispersion marks on the reverse

      so i think they wanted to represent a turn of the century ( 1900) but it looks more like a peoples republic of china period

    11. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      correction you need luster radiaton for the kyoho period IMO
    12. mssue64, 2 years ago
      apostata I will never be your enemy.I'm learning myself.thank you.I'm not an expert I welcome comments abd corrections.

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