Posted 9 years ago
Michel7564
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Hi This is a glass carafe or something like That.
If anyone can help me identify This item and age of it.
then feel free.
Thanks in advance regards Michel
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It's blown glass with a rough pontil and applied handle and could be very old or not. What are the dimensions and where did you find it. Looks like its been in an area where it picked up salts that have encrusted it. I find it very interesting....old or new. RER(BOB)
Hi
Thnx in advance i could really use some help on this one and appreciate all the help i can get.
I got this item by a house cleaning of an olderly person.
I think to It's a very interesting piece and cant find a piece like it on the net.
The height is 18 cm heigh width is 14 cm en depth approxamely 9,5 cm
Excuses me for my bad english i'm dutch
The finish is called "Corroso".
Looking for it on Google and personaly i'm thinking thats it is Some kind of bottle from the roman era (or fake).
Or am i mistaking?
Hi Michel7564! I think you are on the right track. BOB
I mean looking at the handles and bottleneck that was used a lot in the Roman era.
also the stains or mud or something won't come of ???? so I will leave it like that.
but can anyone tell me if they used the rough pontil in that era?
Many thks to all of you,you helped me a lot
Today i went to an antiquair with the bottle and she told me it was an replica from an ancient Roman bottle.
The bottle is to heavy, Roman bottles where lightweight according to her and should almost crack immediately.
I'm doubting that story because if I Google on rectangular Roman glass bottle I find lots of thick wanded glass bottles so I can't imagine that they are also lightweight bottles.
so I will go for an second opinion one of these days.
If anyone has more information about Roman bottles feel free to share it.
also if anyone can confirm the story from the antiquair then please do.
by the way my item weight is about 780 grams.
Regards Michel
Today I went to the Roman museum here in heerlen.
to verify the story from the antiquair the museum told me that it could be a real old Roman bottle, only the chip from the blower at the bottom of the bottle was a question mark for them.
the weight was for them not a hint to put a fake stamp on it ;-)
so no I have to contact another person who works at the museum to ckeck it out.
search for the right answer still continues.
had also a talk with another museum and they told me that it wasn't a common bottle for this area at that age but could be a bottle from Italy (from the Roman era).
Again thanks for the help to you.
Regards Michel
I have about 50 Roman/Mideastern glass bottles in my collection. When I first saw the picture, my immediate thought was that it is either Roman or a reproduction. It is hard to tell from the picture, although if it is a reproduction, it is a good one! Roman bottles are usually (though not always) pontiled, as in your example. Don't try to clean the surface; it is part of the provenance! True mottled surface etching takes centuries to achieve and is difficult to achieve by simply burying bottles in wet soil for a while. Although I have some Roman glass as thin as a light bulb, I also have and have seen fairly heavy examples. Contemporary reproductions that I have seen tend to be on the thin side. The Romans brought their glass blowing technology and objects with them throughout their empire (e.g., Bath England). The green color (4th photo) is more typical. Interesting what the changing light does. The intact handle is more unusual (valuable) than pieces without handles.
Hi bottleguy
Thanx for the thoughts do you have any idea what it could be when its not roman or a reproduction?
I think to its to heavy and thick for a reproduction and the typical roman glass is also different.
But i really dont have a clue from which time era or country it comes from.
Regards Michel
Apologies to bottleguy misread your message. Saw neither instead of either ;-).
Thanx for the info i will go tomorrow to a specialist with it for more help.
Hi
Today i went to an ancient glass expert.
She took her time to examine the piece and she thought that it was a 19th century Italian reproduction.
She said it was a handblown dipmolded piece.
The value of this glass remains a question, she couldn't tell me.
Also I asked her about molded glasses, when it's a reproduction and molded then shouldn't their be more glass bottles known?
She thought that mine was the first one somebody asked about (at this moment it really could be a exclusive unique piece).
To get a final answer on my questions I could donate it to the museum of corning glass.
After all i think she is right with her story about it.
Still remains my questions about this piece value.
If anyone can help me with it then please do so.
Regards Michel