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    Posted 9 years ago

    Rick55
    (130 items)

    This vase just arrived from the Netherlands. It is purported to be Kralik, but I haven't been able to find anything even remotely close. It has a spectacular iridescence and a nicely textured surface from crushed glass. It measures 6" h x 5"w, and has a fire polished rim and ground and polished pontil. Does anyone have an idea who the maker could be?

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    1. SEAN68 SEAN68, 9 years ago
      looks like loetz to me , but im sure im wrong ... over all it is a true stunner!!! love the colors and design :)
    2. eye4beauty eye4beauty, 9 years ago
      Sweet !!!!
    3. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Thanks for the love and comments Sean and Eye4.

      @ Sean... I had checked Deb's site to see if I could find a Loetz match, but couldn't find anything. Thanks.
    4. SEAN68 SEAN68, 9 years ago
      Your very welcome Rick :)
    5. SEAN68 SEAN68, 9 years ago
      How about "Rindskopf "
    6. SEAN68 SEAN68, 9 years ago
      https://www.pinterest.com/pin/90916486202717251/
    7. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Nope, that one is Loetz.
    8. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Thanks anyway Sean.
    9. SEAN68 SEAN68, 9 years ago
      http://www.rubylane.com/item/519537-RL429/Loetz-Platinum-Oil-Spot-Art-Glass

      im trying to find something that is very close to yours Rick.
    10. SEAN68 SEAN68, 9 years ago
      Rick , I have to say that this is way to nice to be kralik!!
    11. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Thanks Sean, I'm sure someone will recognize it. I agree, I didn't think it was Kralik either. We'll see what others have to say.
    12. SEAN68 SEAN68, 9 years ago
      Your very welcome Rick!!!!!! :) I cant wait to see what others have to say!!
    13. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      I know me too!
    14. Alan2310 Alan2310, 9 years ago
      Wow, rick this is a nice one, the color, the irridescent is spectacular, the small little notch on it, are special.
      This could some new piece made in the manner of LOETZ, still done in Austria call"Cabinet Vase" they all have special design, we see a lot on Ebay.
      Is this look old to you rick.
      Who ever made this it is spectacular and beautyful

      Alan
    15. Mac63 Mac63, 9 years ago
      I thought Igor Muller when I first saw it - his pieces seem to be flooding the market right now.
    16. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 9 years ago
      I agree with Alan and Mac...I am thinking modern, too.
    17. SEAN68 SEAN68, 9 years ago
      so I just want to be very clear on this.......... so what is called then?
    18. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Thanks for the comments and love Alan, Mac and Michelle and thanks for the love Agh, Silvia, Deano, Craig, Oz, Courtenay, Valentino, Mike, Smiata, Ivonne, Macart and Just_a_random... it's all appreciated..

      @Michelle and Mac... I appreciate your input. At first, that had also crossed my mind, but his pieces don't typically have a ground and polished pontil. Although beautiful - the quality of his work doesn't rise to the level of finishing a pontil by grinding and polishing. Also, the base shows nice wear where it makes contact with the table. Finally, I've never seen an example of of his work, where he uses cracked glass shards. Here are some examples of his pontils: http://postimg.org/image/w4b1jf0hh/
      http://postimg.org/image/m89yjruph/ http://postimg.org/image/qvg0lji2d/ http://postimg.org/image/euukktanp/
    19. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 9 years ago
      Interesting to know about the base wear...let me look into this more! :)
    20. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 9 years ago
      ...and I meant to also say - whoever made it, it is real beauty!
    21. famatta127 famatta127, 9 years ago
      Sorry to say but this is a very nice but modern piece. Similar pieces can be found on ebay
    22. Alan2310 Alan2310, 9 years ago
      That's what I say to, indeed beautiful.
      After all, what the hell do I know on this, not much anyways.

      Alan
    23. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Thanks Michelle, I appreciate your help. If you look at the base in pic 3, there is a ring which has light scratches where it makes contact with the table.
    24. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Thanks Tony I appreciate your input... Like I said earlier, Modern Czech is what first came to mind, so prior to buying it, I looked at every example of his I could find - ebay and google - but couldn't find a match. None remotely similar in form nor finish . It very well may be modern, but I don't believe it's Muller. Like I stated earlier, he just doesn't go that extra step to finish the pontil, or use cracked glass in this manner.
    25. Mac63 Mac63, 9 years ago
      Rick - I wonder if we need to create a new category of glass; instead of calling it in the "style of Loetz"we need to call it in the "style of Muller". Surely he cannot not be the only person responsible for this type of glass which we are seeing on eBay when one does a Loetz search.

      Just as an aside and in my opinion - the upside to this style of glass is that some it (this one included) it truely beautiful. The downside is that I see it causing a lot of confusion as to who made it and will continue to do so as it floods the market. The other downside is that there will be those unscrupulous types who will ground out pontils and sign pieces falsely.
    26. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Here you go Michelle... http://postimg.org/image/g6ip83hnp/ The vase doesn't sit flush. It rests higher in a couple of spots and the wear patterns are consistent with that. I suppose wear patterns can be manufactured so who knows...

      @Mac.. Yes there are at least a couple more I've seen. One is from a seller Tomaso and another is Jafu. Each has their own forms and decor that, I assume, are unique to them.

      I appreciate everybody's input and opinion which is one of the reasons we're all part of CW. So, I'm going to trust you guys that it's a new piece, but I do love it regardless!
    27. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Thanks for the love Peggy.
    28. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Thanks for the love Efesgirl.
    29. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Thanks for the love Rustfarm and Pease, it's appreciated.
    30. inky inky, 9 years ago
      My goodness the colours in this so beautiful.... :-)
    31. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Thanks for the nice comment and love Inky, it's appreciated.
    32. antiquerose antiquerose, 9 years ago
      ~ WOW ~ What a stunning piece of glass!! I love the colors of it -- my fav !!
    33. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Thanks Rose. Turns out it is a contemporary piece. I just came back from the Antique Roadshow in S.C. and they dated it to the 80's.
    34. Trey Trey, 9 years ago
      Beautiful Colors:)
    35. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Thank you for the love and comment Trey, and thanks for the love Radegunder.
    36. Trey Trey, 9 years ago
      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/117249-1920s-shell-sign?in=Trey
      It's the same color as my truck and I swear I see yellow in there too:) what do you think?
    37. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Yeah Trey, it's definitely the same color as your truck, which looks great BTW. The yellow you see is the light going through the vase which makes it look yellow, but it's not.
    38. Trey Trey, 9 years ago
      Ahh it tricked me:)
    39. Trey Trey, 9 years ago
      Thanks for the nice compliment on the truck too:)
    40. Deano Deano, 9 years ago
      Everything about this vase Works! for me. I really like the iridescent green. I pretty much like everything green. I hope you find out what it is. Nice piece Rick.
    41. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      Thanks so Much Deano and Ho2.

      @Deano... In comment 33, I mentioned that I took it to the Antiques Roadshow. They told me it's a contemporary Czech piece dating from the 80's. Regardless, I love it and appreciate your comment.
    42. antiquerose antiquerose, 8 years ago
      loving it again....SO beautiful !!!!
    43. Rick55 Rick55, 8 years ago
      Thanking you again Rosie!

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