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    Posted 9 years ago

    IanBrighton
    (573 items)

    This is my most recent purchase. I am hoping someone will recognise the shape and handles. Until then, tentatively in the Kralik pile owing to the blue not amethyst at base, and the handles, that I am sure would not have been square on a Ruckl attributed piece. Al, Craig and all: what do you think?
    It is 15cm square.

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    1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      So jealous. This I just wonderful. I saw it and thought Rückl. lOVE IT !!!!!!!
    2. antiquerose antiquerose, 9 years ago
      Love the colors -- So Striking !!!
    3. IanBrighton IanBrighton, 9 years ago
      Thanks, Kevin, I immediately thought Ruckl but then wasn't sure.
    4. kivatinitz kivatinitz, 9 years ago
      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/76062-ruckl-materials-from-the-2012-tango-exhi
    5. welzebub welzebub, 9 years ago
      I have no idea on this one. Kralik? Rückl?, or a couple of others.

      I think the shape would be the key to the ID on this one. This is a style of décor likely done by several companies which can be extremely difficult to tell apart. I am referring to a spatter with pulls from the bottom.

      Some people seem to be of the impression that satin glass is an indication of Rückl production, and they are known to have used it, but that technique was also employed by several firms, including Welz and others. Welz produced some examples using a satin finish in the early 1900's pre WWI.
    6. surfdub66 surfdub66, 9 years ago
      Beautiful "fire pot" makes me feel warm just looking at it :-))
    7. scottvez scottvez, 9 years ago
      "Fire pot"-- Great description of the colors!

      scott
    8. IanBrighton IanBrighton, 9 years ago
      The link certainly adds something in terms of other shapes. You would think the handles on the third would swing it?
    9. IanBrighton IanBrighton, 9 years ago
      Very interesting as the description reads "Three "Coralie" vases - Anton Rückl & Sons, Ltd., Nischburg, Langenau, Bienenthal, 1930. Colourless glass, cased with orange, blue, yellow and red confetti [at least that's what I imagine the technical glass stuff to read. Google translate doesn't do technical stuff!]. Two vases with applied handles. A vase with original adhesive label ''Coralie''. H. 14-18 cm

      The original label is of enormous interest. But not at that price! I wonder! I am surprised that the name "Coralie" doesn't correlate with the Ruckl line drawings - or does it? I know there is a Coral shimmy pfau.
    10. IanBrighton IanBrighton, 9 years ago
      Thanks, Al. Appreciated.
    11. IanBrighton IanBrighton, 9 years ago
      Maybe "Coralie" was not the company's label but a wholesaler? I just thought. Maybe more examples with labels would be something?
    12. welzebub welzebub, 9 years ago
      The only references I could locate relative to Rückl and the Coralie label in Google results for the US, Germany, and also CZ are all related to the Fischer auction post.

      I am of the opinion that any assumption that it is a Ruckl label, as opposed to a retailers or importers label is premature. Especially in light of no one having seen an image of it at this point. I think without further information, a retailer or exporter label is just as likely as a Rückl label.

      It is most probable that the vases in the Fischer link are Rückl. A determination on the origins and meaning of the label would be best reserved until someone actually sees an example of the "Coralie" label.

      On a precautionary note, the image in the following link was said to be Rückl, or possibly Kralik. It also bears a similarity to the Truitt line art for a couple of décors which I am sure led to the Rückl attribution, and yet an example was found recently with a Royal Art Glass label used by Welz.

      http://cf.collectorsweekly.com/stories/dLA5eJ3m3bSEuhLc.3l9EA.jpg

      Personally I prefer to err on the side of caution.

      I have always found it is much easier to define something as unknown, and find the actual answer later, than it is to correct a mistake made previously based on incorrect assumptions, when the actual answer appears. :-)
    13. welzebub welzebub, 9 years ago
      Based on the Fischer images I would also say that if those examples are Rückl, then this is also.

      As an interesting side note, the word Coralie is a French woman's name which means "Coral".
    14. welzebub welzebub, 9 years ago
      For what it is worth, I contacted Fisher Auctions to see if they may have had any archived images from the auction that showed the label, but they did not.

      To be clear, the name Coralie does not directly translate to Coral, but it is a name derived from the latin word Coralium, and is said to mean Coral. The French word for Coral is Corail.

      The interesting aspect of the label to me, if it is indeed a Rückl applied line label, is that the décor on the vases actually resembled the Décor 329; Orange Shimmy Pfau and the label means Coral. Décor 123; Coral Shimmy Pfau, being a décor bearing far less resemblance to the vases in question.

      For me it is just food for thought.
    15. welzebub welzebub, 9 years ago
      The above comments regarding a "Coralie" label are relative to this link which was previously posted in this discussion but is now gone:

      https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/30433872_drei-vasen-coralie

      My comments regarding a Rückl attribution are also related to the linked examples.

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