Posted 9 years ago
Sting
(27 items)
I knew I would find some pin fires. (3 pictured)
I knew there would be nonlethal and practice rounds. (An odd-ball round that is either for crowd control or practice or using a crowd for practice.)
I believe I can identify the item at the top of the page. Hint? West German company and what they believed to be the future of firearms.
No one around here appreciates my discoveries. Thank you.
"No one around here appreciates my discoveries," you say. Care to elaborate?
SpiritBear,
"Here", as in the physical realm, I am an empty nester. I don't really have anyone around that shares my interest in both history and firearms. "Here", as in the cyber realm, it is a different story.
I am divesting myself of a lot of my dad's things. I ran across a large blue shell casing the other day. When I figured out that it was from the automatic cannon that was the basis for the A-10 Warthog my wife could care less. This is the same plane that was literally scheduled for the scrap heap before it was found to be amazingly successful in the Gulf. Someone out there is going to think this is as cool as I do.
Any guesses on the top item?
Nope, no guesses. I'm not familiar with weaponry. I found a bullet once still in the shell, and some shells, and the remains of older shells. They just got tossed in a box.
Seems I know the top thing but can't place it. The 2nd one looks like a dummy .45-70 round for the Gatling gun but a fine space at the rim says otherwise. The non-availability of cartridges for pin fire & other diversified ignition systems killed their marketability . You might get shot while looking for those elusive .44 pin fire cartridges !! They may have been almost as hard to find back then as now.
The round on the top is a caseless cartridge, I believe, is that correct?
Like this.......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caseless_ammunition
The top object has faint lettering that reads "H&K GMBH". Caseless ammunition part it is!
Blunderbuss, the second down is not a 45-70 round but the first clue should be the scale (see quarter to right). The rim is brass without head stamp. The cartridge and "projectile" is a single piece of olive drab plastic. I believe it is a practice round and to me it looks like a .30 caliber carbine round...except for the rim. I need to compare it to a few other rounds and figure it out.
I need to research the pin fires. The are pretty unique.
Not shabby Iz. This just looked too metallic to me to be a caseless ! I like the basic models. The more that's added to a gun is just more that can go wrong. I like a basic pistol with a HAMMER ! Then you know when it's loaded & cocked through peripheral vision or the feel of the thumb when facing a threat ! My favourite is the Browning HP. I don't need double action to slow me down & throw my aim off.
1911 for me but I am gaining a great appreciation for Gloxk
The 2nd one may be a shot cartridge like they used to make for .22's.
It is a .38 practice round
Sting, Is the caseless round you posted made entirely of brass? If it is, it is a souvenir or small paperweight, imo. The whole idea behind the caseless ammo, was to cut the cost of a wasted. machined brass case, which would be lost in the woods, after a fire fight? A true caseless round would be fully disintegrating after it was fired, from what I can see?, Your Thoughts?
Izenglish, You are right. I understand one of major reasons for going case less is the energy/time the mechanism uses in expending the spent cartridge.
My dad did a lot of work with H&K so the souvenir idea makes perfect sense.
Were the practice .38 rds. for practicing flinching ? LOL