Posted 8 years ago
ho2cultcha
(5051 items)
I picked this up at Omega Salvage today too. i think it's really beautiful! it's a little bit damaged, which is why i could afford it. I think it's Chinese and the symbol in the middle is a good luck symbol i've seen alot.
AN UNREAL STUNNER !!!
thanks Kevin!
thanks nuts! anyone know about when it was made?
Those are bats around the center symbol, too! That's beautiful.
Wow - Ohmega Salvage is expensive! I've always wanted to get over there to see the salvage yards!
I was just looking at their website.
i just received an email from an expert in the field who says it's a gorgeous piece of painted enamel from Canton - first half of the 19th century. so it's not cloisonne. interesting!
yes, Celiene - Omega is expensive for the most part, but they have really good eyes for stuff and they don't research the more obscure things or event things which are slightly damaged [like these]. i've found some of my best things there. i paid only $32 for this piece - which is a lot more than i usually pay for stuff.
Beautiful!
thanks racer!
from what i've been told by the folks on the Collecting Chinese Antiques and Art Facebook page, this plate is VERY special. i found pieces which match the work on this piece which sold for more than $200,000 at Sothebys! several others were sold for between 10 and 20,000.
Ha, so it was you posting here and there, I wondered. :)
I gotta get over there one of these days!
WOW! Which FB page? There are several. You need to take that to Bonham's & Butterfield's for appraisal! Better than Clar's, I think!
Thank you Celiene and Katherine! maybe i will bring it to Bonham's, Celiene.
They have free appraisal days @Bonhams.
thank you Celiene. i've been researching this piece, and i'm reasonably certain that it is Qing [1732-1795].
Celiene, the FB page is here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/collectingjapaneseceramics/
Could you post the information about the Bonham free appraisals, pls?
yes, i'd like the info about Bonhams free appraisals too. it was the agreement of the chinese antiques page folks that this is Quianlong or Jiaqing from mid 1700s-through the first part of the 1800s. and that this is a very special piece. i think i scored.
My 2 cents worth, when I look at any kind of Chinese hand painted item, I check the motifs, how they were applied, the colors used, and the metal condition such as tone and surface.
This is a very beautiful Chinese Canton enamel plate. The colors used are 19th century, pink was a difficult shade to create before that. The decor is an applied dark contour which has been filled in with great skill by hand. The metal rim in spite of being damaged still had a good bronze color, and no erosion. The lotus flower with the bats and the infinite center symbol are all omens of good luck and longevity.
Mid to late 19th century I would say. A great example, many people would love to have. Thanks Pete.
promise yourselve the first thing you got to do tommorow to have it repaired by a pro, because this is tremendous well piece and an easy repair about 150 dollars , i still disagree with the experts of FB this is early Jiaging not late Qianlong ( reason is the position of the lotus leaf design) and the glazing is such awfull wel , you will overtake the costs above even, its precious , but the estimates are way to high
addendum this is the first advise of me to have stuff repairded and the asked me a lot about repairs concerning porcelain
thank you apostata! i think i've learned alot since i first posted this, but i like your reasoning for it being Jiaquing vs. Qianlong.
now i need to find someone here in the bay area hopefully, who can repair fine Canton enamel.
Dave2no1 - i had assumed that the finest pinks began in Qianlong?
jezus man this is better than a royal flush