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    Posted 8 years ago

    Esso
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    Old Guinness beer label that I can not trace, perhaps somebody could share some beer Guinness wisdom?

    Time for a Guinness!

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    1. rniederman rniederman, 8 years ago
      This label has "Registered Trade Marks" which was used from 1962 to 1965. From 1965 onward, the label had to include information about minimum contents (i.e. imperial fluid measures).

      And yes, it's practically always time for a Guinness. And ... you might be interested in looking at my posts of original Guinness art created for their advertising campaigns:

      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/6624-guinness-toucan-painting-by-gilroy-orig

      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/76394-more-vintage-ads-with-santa--early-guin

      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/79167-1950-guinness-advertising-study-with-a-j

      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/85249-guinness-advertising-study-of-a-1947-rol

      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/88983-first-appearance-of-the-guinness-toucan
    2. Esso Esso, 8 years ago
      Nice details about years, thanks!!
      Perhaps label have to contain minimum contents somthing..
      ..anyway it seem to be the is the rarest label ever not contain minimum contents.
    3. rniederman rniederman, 8 years ago
      Sorry to say yours is not a rare label and actually quite common. As an example, 1960 sales in Ireland alone was nearly 2 million bottles. That's a lot of labels!

      As background, Guinness labels without content statements go back to the mid-1800s. For instance, the harp that appears on early labels became a registered trademark on April 5, 1862. And pretty much all labels up through 1965 did not have content statements.

      I should have clarified that it was the U.K. market that added content statements through about 1968. Then, depending on the market, many labels did not have content statements again after 1968 yet some markets kept the content statements. It's somewhat confusing.

      FWIW ... the information I am sharing comes from a fine book by David Hughes (a good friend) entitled: "A Bottle of Guinness please: The colourful history of Guinness." David worked 16 years in Royal Park and for some time in Nigeria, West Africa, brewing Foreign Extra Stout. He has published several books on the history of Guinness, Guinness collectibles, and so forth.
    4. Esso Esso, 8 years ago
      Thx lot of nice info, would have taken me weeks to find out.
      Anyway I think this label must be rare in some way, because its printed James Kirwan Bonmahon, Waterford and I can not find any links between that and Guinness.
    5. rniederman rniederman, 8 years ago
      Bonmahon was one of the many local bottlers of the period. Guinness had a lot of bottler relationships.
    6. Esso Esso, 8 years ago
      What is a local bottler? Somebody Who is brewing, selling bottels, kind of agent..
    7. Esso Esso, 8 years ago
      Did a local bottler brew Guinnes beer in his bar? Did a local bottler/seller had his name printed on the labels? I do not know.. Anyway Bonmahon is a very small rare place and I doubt you find a label like this.

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