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swampdogg's loves78 of 673old square coin from the bahamasSilver lot, picked from broken stuff case. Years ago.
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    Posted 8 years ago

    Mjurgelas
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    My mom purchased this trunk in Connecticut at an auction 50 years ago. They claimed it was owned by Mark Twain. Inside is filled with old pictures as you can see. How do I find out if it's authentic? It's been sitting in our basement and in pretty bad shape. There is also spectacles in a case inside.

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    1. roddyq roddyq, 8 years ago
      I am wondering if you can get a closer photo of the photos/ non sport trading cards. Not able to read any information written on them.
    2. Mjurgelas, 8 years ago
      Hard to read but some names are General Nelson A Miles Cam-in -Chief US Army, General Horace Port, Ambassador to France, E.H. Congen, US Minister to China, Hon J B Forkarer, Ex-Governor of Ohio, Lyman J Gage, Seretary of Treasury and more. Does that help?
    3. Mjurgelas, 8 years ago
      Wow! Should I look at more? They were all in his era.
    4. scottvez scottvez, 8 years ago
      Interesting trunk-- looks like tobacco cards glued to the trunk top.

      The "Mark Twain" story sounds like seller hype. If you have some documentation/ supporting evidence in the trunk itself-- it may be worth investigating. If the attribution is solely based on the 50 year old story, you're out of luck.

      Thanks for sharing.

      scott
    5. roddyq roddyq, 8 years ago
      I will do some more checking on the names, it looks like you have an assortment of famous American generals, ( Civil War and.. ) and the ladies possibly early entertainment/ movie starlettes and world flags cards
    6. PhilDMorris PhilDMorris, 8 years ago
      I have some of the cards or most all of them as I have the albums. On these I think they are Brooke Bond from the 50's or 60's and may be famous persons and inventors albums and also royalty, unfortunately my albums are put away right now.
      Love the cards giving it colour.
    7. PoliticalPinbacks PoliticalPinbacks, 8 years ago
      At least some of the cards are from 1896 to 1900 like the McKinley and Teddy Roosevelt (lower center)
    8. swampdogg swampdogg, 8 years ago
      Those cards look like Domino like cards if this will help any
    9. swampdogg swampdogg, 8 years ago
      Bulgaria, from the National Flag on Domino series (T177) issued by Kinney Brothers to promote Sweet Caporal Cigarettes

      Publisher:Issued by Kinney Brothers (American)
      Date:ca. 1901Medium:Commercial color printDimensions:Sheet: 2 5/8 × 1 1/2 in. (6.7 × 3.8 cm)Classifications:Prints, EphemeraCredit Line:The Jefferson R. Burdick Collection, Gift of Jefferson R. BurdickAccession Number:63.350.246.177.5
    10. swampdogg swampdogg, 8 years ago
      I typed in
      domino world flag cards
    11. swampdogg swampdogg, 8 years ago
      those are old cards on the other side of the domino side is old baseball players
    12. swampdogg swampdogg, 8 years ago
      this will show the women in the cards
      http://www.ebay.com/itm/1901-02-Sweet-Caporal-T176-American-Tobacco-near-complete-set-22-cards/201887249187?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3D1afe3d82bc31485d83fee8565f39f46c%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D201853390873
    13. Mjurgelas, 8 years ago
      Wow! Don't know if I should take them off the trunk!
    14. swampdogg swampdogg, 8 years ago
      sorry typing so much but if the cards are 1901- 1902 then maybe the trunk is years before or during hope this will help your research
    15. Mjurgelas, 8 years ago
      Thank you!!! Guess they're not worth much. Was excited for a moment. I could only find 5 Kinney Bros domino flag cards on internet and 2 are at the Met. I have 20.
    16. swampdogg swampdogg, 8 years ago
      if it was me i would leave them be cause it probally distroy the cards but find out everything about the trunk and cards first then if some one could take cards off not destroying them in any way that be nice
    17. Mjurgelas, 8 years ago
      Thank you!!
    18. swampdogg swampdogg, 8 years ago
      can you post the spectacles in a case plz
    19. swampdogg swampdogg, 8 years ago
      your very welcome hope all this helps you
    20. swampdogg swampdogg, 8 years ago
      you can try mark twains museum contact them ask them if this trunk could be authentic and the glasses if you think they belong http://www.marktwainmuseum.org/
    21. Mjurgelas, 8 years ago
      How do I post additional pics?
    22. PoliticalPinbacks PoliticalPinbacks, 8 years ago
      On the left hit "Edit this item" however you can only post 4 at a time so you would have to remove some first OR start a new item post.
    23. Mjurgelas, 8 years ago
      started a new item post
    24. greendog greendog, 8 years ago
      Hey Mjurgelas, first of all lets talk about the trunk, this style of trunk which is a round top or barrel top cross slat design, top wood slats running from front to back and was first patented in 1880 by C A Taylor. This style of trunk was very common and was made by hundreds of trunk makers, your trunk was probably made some where around late 1890's up to 1915, without a makers label, which most trunks didn't have, it impossible to say who, where, or pinpoint a date as to when it was made as this style was made for around 40 years or so. The cards if they had any value at any time is gone, because they have been glued into the trunk and are considered damaged beyond collectors value. I doubt that the trunk belonged to Mark Twain, if it did, you would have to have solid documentation, provenance, without that you have nothing, but the word of an auctioneer from 50 years ago. greendog
    25. Mjurgelas, 8 years ago
      I don't know if I agree. The flag/dominos trading cards were produced in 1901 by the Kinney Bros to promote their cigarettes. They produced 106 of each and were hand cut from original cartons of cigarettes. I can only find 5 online and 2 of them are in the Metropolitan Museum of Art donated in 1960. I have 20 of them and can't find the other 15 online anywhere. I would auction the trunk with all cards attached but think I may have something.
    26. greendog greendog, 8 years ago
      You are entitled to your opinion, but as a card collector for over 50 years, I know that the value of cards goes up and down drastically, and the market is soft, unless you have a super rare card, then you are subject to condition, condition, condition. I don't think the cards at the Metropolitan Museum of art are glued into a trunk, and I don't think you will find a serious collector that will buy a trunk with cards glued in it, but good luck with that, I wish all the best. greendog

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