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This Dresser obviously was not hand made because the dove tails are perfect, however, it has a stamp and signatures. Any thoughts on the significance of them? I would like to know approximately the time frame it was built Thank you for any input.
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Thank you for the suggestion. Someone had glued a wood look Formica top on the dresser so after I removed it, there is a layer of glue I need to remove. :/
Before I realized you had replied, I saw some vidoes on paste removers so I went to Lowes and all I could find was Kwick Strip Spray... so I got it and am trying a small spot to see what it does.
Lacquer Thinner should remove about any glue or mastic but it will need to be applied and NOT brushed in. Lay it right on good and let it soak in. Keep an eye on it so it doesn't dry again, you should be able to use a putty knife to peel it off then sand off what is left.
Well, I am trying the Kwick Strip Spray since I already purchased it. it seems to be working pretty well but the varnish is very thick so I believe it will take several coats of remover. It was $47 a can (gallon so I think I will only get the top layer off and sand the rest... ? I really appreciate your suggestions.
I am still wondering why this piece has a stamp and signatures. Does anyone have an idea?
I am not an expert. I was intrigued by the dresser so I began googling all the different variations of the signatures and stamps. I read through the other comments etc. this is the info I looked up on google
german bowfront commode furniture Wiesentheid qlB biedermeier, the leg style match the Biedermeier style, qlB is a German location. I believe the signatures are the names of the movers? If it has been restained and there is a distinct woodgrain pattern and it is heavy I would venture to guess it is mahogany. Hope this helps!
I use a stripper from Home Depot it is a bright orange and it smells like a creamsicle. This stuff is amazing. You goop it on in a thick coat. Then wrap whatever you are stripping in plastic pressing down on the stripper to seal an make sure it doesn’t dry let it sit for 36 hours- check it to make sure it doesn’t dry out but no opening unless you need to add more to keep from drying out. After 36 hours remove a bit of the plastic on the corner and gently with a flat scraper test an area. It should just scrape right off. If not and most does you may have to scrape and do one more time. I have never had to do more than once.
Aaugust14 - Looking at the end grain of the wood that shows in the dovetails I sooner think this is a member of the nut family as opposed to Mahogany. Quite possibly black walnut having originated in Germany.
Aaugust14 - Thank you so much for the interest. please tell me how you fount that information I looked and looked. :) I have posted a new photo of what it is looking like as I strip the varnish off. This is just the first layer... this is going to be quite a job. Please let me know what you think.
fhrjr2 - thank you as well. I have posted a new photo. Does it help?
Aaugust14- I dont see any Biedermeiers that have wooden knob handles like these?
Indeed to an extent the new picture helps. I see a dust panel between the drawers. Dust panels were only installed in top of the line furniture. Lower quality there were none.
fhrjr2 - Please excuse my ignorance, what is a dust panel?
Not at all ignorance. Look in the opening where the drawer is missing. You can't see into the drawer below it. The wooden separator is called a dust panel. Seldom seen in furniture today.
fhrjr2 - Oh yes that is where the stamp is and the signatures are.
This dresser is the farthest thing from Biedermeier style I have ever seen. Ludicrous. The splayed leg is really not part of a style in this piece. The best part of these is that they never outlast their usefullness !~
The signature is often put on furniture where they have to store it as more often than not, stored furniture can be put in storage for long periods. I always hear stories of furniture being in storage so long it gets lost.
PhilD I must have looked at the same site as Aaugust14 because this leg style is listed as Northern Germany Biedermeier made around 1860.
fhrjr2 - can you please give me the link to the site you found. Thank you so much.
PhilD -There are like 3 or 4 different signatures. Do you mean it would be the name of the owners of the piece or the name of the people who stored it? Also what about the stamp behind the signatures? Any idea what it says or means? Thank you so much for your input.
I didn't bookmark the site but it was an antique for sale site in Germany.
The stamp you refer to is Wiesentheid. It is a municipality in Bavaria, Germany. If you ever get to Bavaria you can't help but to love it.
fhrjr2 - thank you again. I have been to many cities in Germany and loved them all so I am sure you are right. :)
fhrjr2 - Can you make out anything else on the stamp?