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    Posted 4 years ago

    kwqd
    (1184 items)

    This vase is about 10" high and 12" widest diameter. It is actually pretty thin. It appears to be white clay with a brown or copper color impregnated decoration applied to the rim. The seller identified it as a Kutani mountain (toyama) vase, but the mark on the bottom is so sloppy that I cannot make it out. I suspect that the seller identified it as a Kutani mountain vase because there is a pretty similar vase here though the mark is not similar:

    http://modernjapanesepotterymarks.blogspot.com/search/label/Kutani

    I submitted images to the Kuntani Ceramic Website (https://www.kutani.org/) and the experts there told me that this is not a Kutani vase, though.

    I can't really blame the seller's assumption as this is the only very similar vase I could find, as well. I did find three more Kutani mountain vases which are somewhat similar, but not quite the same. Guessing it is Japanese, however, and the folks at Kutani Ceramic agreed. I will say that it does have something in common with proved Kutani mountain vases, so perhaps it is another artist or kiln's take on that type of vase?

    I have read that the Chinese are counterfeiting many Japanese vases, but I don't think the Japanese version of these mountain vases are particularly valuable so not sure it would be worthwhile to counterfeit it. On the other hand, the Japanese vases are attractive so I could understand if the Chinese were just stealing the design to sell. Thoughts welcome.

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    Comments

    1. Newfld Newfld, 4 years ago
      Beautiful mountain image vase, the graduated blue strokes are so serene - a great find
    2. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      Thanks for your comment, Jenni! Kutani was known for making these stylized mountain vases.

      Thanks for taking a look at my mountain vase fortapache, Watchsearcher, Jenni, Kevin and iggy!
    3. Newfld Newfld, 4 years ago
      Kevin pls forgive me, just noticed I had hit the "like" button instead of love, I was a fleet fingered typist in my working days & am still apt to accidentally strike the like button when I only believe in giving love - I really do love this vase & now it is changed to my true intention lol!
    4. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      Thanks for your comment Elaine!

      No worries, Jenni! Thanks for taking a look again!

      Thanks for taking time to look at my mountain vase Lisa, RichmondLori, Jenni, Elaine, Thomas and Kevin!
    5. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      Thank you Ben and aura!
    6. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      Thanks Blammoammo!
    7. racer4four racer4four, 4 years ago
      I have seen similar for sale in my internet travels and I think they were noted as Kutani.
      Which pottery? No idea.
    8. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      Thanks Karen!
    9. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      Thanks Vynil33rpm!
    10. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      Thanks for your comment, yop! I did not find any really good descriptions of Kutani "Wu Su" ware on line and had to cobble together a few lines below:

      One style of Kutani Yaki pottery is a color scheme in which painting with an indigo blue line called "Wu Su (gorge)" is drawn and painting using five colors (red, yellow, green, purple, and Prussian blue called "five colors") are painted in.

      A more complete description would be a good resource for folks who want to learn more about this style....
    11. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      Thanks taking a look at my Kutani vase Eileen!
    12. kwqd kwqd, 2 years ago
      An update on this vase. After quite a bit of research, I finally used the appraisal service at https://www.kutani.org/ to see if they could tell me more about it and their assessment is that this is Japanese but not Kutani. Yikes! Still one of my favorite pieces but guessing the artist/kiln may never be identified.
    13. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      hahaha what got yikes got to do it you are better off potential studio ware than kutani

      may i be part of your cheering session, i use to have a mean split,
    14. kwqd kwqd, 2 years ago
      Lol. Yeah, I really like this vase. Too bad the signature is so bad. Thanks for checking it out!
    15. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      well that is too much credit because i did,not check it out, possible studio is hard to crack, end and exit
    16. kwqd kwqd, 2 years ago
      Just meant "thanks for looking at my post"!

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