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    Posted 4 years ago

    sklo42
    (898 items)

    I bought this lumpy vase thinking it might be Kralik as the feet look the same as the Kralik 'Bunch of Grapes' vase. I've no idea what the décor may be called.

    Height 16.5cm./6.5 inches

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    Comments

    1. racer4four racer4four, 4 years ago
      Those feet are very interesting and I daresay a guide to the maker.
      This vase is another out there piece for the Bohemians. Their sometimes almost random approach and variety of techniques always works! I can't say the same for all glass makers.
      I love interesting glass like this Peggy.
    2. IronLace IronLace, 4 years ago
      Love it! I'm thinking it could be a Silveria type decor, done with frit & trails rather than silver foil, though it still has quite a metallic look. Just a super piece all round.
    3. larksel larksel, 4 years ago
      This is another mystery. The shapes are very similar to the shapes of the shades from the Steinwald´s catalog (Blatt 9, shape 2991 and 2837 or 2838). See: https://www.bohemianglass.org/katalog/ernst-steinwald-co-stinidla-5057/detail/
      And to make it even more complicated, the decor from the first vase in your picture is also known in the shape that is generally considered to be the shape used by the Rinskopf glassworks.
    4. philmac51 philmac51, 4 years ago
      Yep...here we go... upside down lampshades - love 'em!
    5. philmac51 philmac51, 4 years ago
      ... or right way up...
    6. sklo42 sklo42, 4 years ago
      Karen, me too. It's hard to tell what the shape really is, the lumps don't follow any pattern.
    7. sklo42 sklo42, 4 years ago
      Marin, it looks like something you might find on the forest floor. not boring though.
    8. sklo42 sklo42, 4 years ago
      Larksel, now I am confused.
    9. sklo42 sklo42, 4 years ago
      The only essential, Phil, is that you know which way up you are.
    10. larksel larksel, 4 years ago
      Yes according to WVM Monograph No. 59 should be a "Meteor" decor and according to the comments on this catalog, it should be made by the W. Kralik glassworks. Unfortunately, in my opinion, it is not the catalog of the W. Kralik glassworks, but it is the catalog of a glass dealer. Some examples of "Meteor" decor are significantly different from everything else. In addition, some vases from Tafel III resemble vases produced by a Bavarian glassworks. So, in my opinion, it could have been done by W. Kralik, but also by someone else.

      Importantly, however, they are interesting and attractive pieces of bohemian glass.
    11. welzebub welzebub, 4 years ago
      The WVMAG Monograph 59 is NOT a glass dealer catalog. The source of the catalog which was initially published in 2006 by the museum, was firmly established about 8 years later and the foreword was revised to reflect that information. Below is a portion of the 2014 revision:

      "However, a fellow collector, Edna Schuligof(sic), took the catalog to the Czech Republic and showed it to Jitka Lnenikova, author of the most complete book of Loetz designs published so far. Lnenikova identified the whole catalog as Kralik glass, including those two problematic last pages. A British collector, Ian Thompson, recently wrote me that he had been able to decipher the signature on the dedication:

      I don't know if this is "old news" (I am sure it is) but I am quite good with copperplate handwriting due to my history hobby aside from glass - the dedication in the front of the unidentified Czech glass catalogue, for which you wrote the introduction, is Siegfried Kralik. Just checking in the first Truitt book, Siegfried is mentioned (1891-1974) as the inheritor of Meyr's Neffe along with brother Alfons.

      Thus, the identification puzzle is finally solved. We know now not only the name and identity of the recipient (see previous page by Dean Six) but the name and identity of the sender: none other than one of the Kralik brothers! This catalog then becomes the most complete documentation on Kralik glass to be found so far."

      This information pretty much negates any claim that the catalog is not Kralik production.
    12. larksel larksel, 4 years ago
      Thank you for the explanation. I also consulted this vase with Dr. Lenickova. I think that production by the W. Kralik glassworks is only one of the possibilities.
      Otherwise, I agree that the signature in the catalog looks like Siegfried Kralik (v.M.), but I still think that it is more of a catalog of a trader-exporter than a catalog of the glassworks of W.Kralik. I have no problem with the evaluation that the vast majority of this glass is from the production of W. Kralik. I'm just not sure about the METEOR glass and the vases at the bottom of the Tafel III, which really look like vases in the shapes of the Bavarian Steigerwald-Schliersee glassworks (see: Sellner Christiane: Gläserner Jugendstil aus Bayern, Morsak Verlag Grafenau, 1992). However, it is true that more glassworks also made vases of this type.
      I think that the time period of publication of both catalogs (this and ES&C lamp shades) is roughly the same.

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