Posted 4 years ago
Rosie84
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I've just got these from my mum. Once belonged to my grandmother . One is electrical the other is not. Id like to know more about them please
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Posted 4 years ago
Rosie84
(1 item)
I've just got these from my mum. Once belonged to my grandmother . One is electrical the other is not. Id like to know more about them please
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Hi, Rosie84. :-)
So one of these machines belonged to your grandmother, huh? That's so nice. <3
Let's start off with some basics.
Per the International Sewing Machine Collectors' Society (ISMACS), your machine with the "Y6904504" serial number was made at Singer's Elizabethport factory, and the one with the "EF117799" serial number was made at Singer's Clydebank (Kilbowie) factory:
http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/singer_dating_by_serial_number.html
I'm actually a bit doubtful about the one with the "Y" prefix being made at the Elizabethport factory, but I'll write about that a bit lower down.
About the Elizabethport factory:
https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/elizabethport
https://www.ericwilliamsblog.com/left-behind-in-elizabeth-the-singer-manufacturing-company-part-1/
https://www.ericwilliamsblog.com/left-behind-in-elizabeth-the-singer-manufacturing-company-part-2/
About the Kilbowie factory:
https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/kilbowie
Per the serial number tables, your machine stamped with the serial number "Y6904504" falls into this block of numbers:
*snip*
Y- 6896511 6906510 28K 10000 March 26 1929
*snip*
http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-y-series-serial-numbers.html
What that translates to is that it was one of a 10,000 block of consecutive numbers (6896511 through 6906510) allotted on March 26th, 1929, and all were destined to be stamped into the beds of model 28K machines.
Notice that the model number has a "K" suffix. That means the Kilbowie factory.
About the family of machines to which the 28K belongs:
https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/28
Your decal set:
https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/decals/decal08
Some manuals:
http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/Singer%20VS%202%20Model%2027%20Manual.pdf
https://archive.org/details/singer-28-user-manual-en/mode/2up
Per the serial number tables, your machine stamped with the serial number "EF117799" falls into this block of numbers:
*snip*
EF- 112001 137000 99K 25000 March 4 1949
*snip*
http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-ef-series-serial-numbers.html
What that translates to is that it was one of a 25,000 block of consecutive numbers (112001 through 137000) allotted on March 4th, 1949, and all were destined to be stamped into the beds of model 99K machines.
About model 99 machines:
https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/99k
Your decal set:
https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/decals/decal04
A manual:
http://needlebar.org/main/sident/99.pdf
A word about the allotment dates. There is a widespread misaprehension that those dates correspond to the dates of manufacture. That's probably not so, but in general, it's about as close as you can get, and in truth it's a lot closer than you can get with most other brands of vintage sewing machines.
If those dates don't satisfy your information tooth, a vintage sewing machine expert at the victoriansweatshop dot com forum developed a tool to narrow it down further:
https://www.victoriansweatshop.com/post/excel-2010-sewing-machine-production-date-calculator-8214151
However, you need an account in order to download that tool. I don't have one myself.
I think that a person can approximate the results of that Excel tool using the ISMACS/Singer serial number tables, and some free tools at timeanddate dot com:
https://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html
https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html
https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/
https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/
If you don't feel up to the task, ask here in a comment, and I'll do it. Please understand that this is not certifiable information. These are just rough estimates. :-)
One more link in case I forgot anything:
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/285089-vintage-sewing-machine-help