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18th c Chinese Platter for the Thai Market - Pre Bencharong

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Asian Antiques639 of 1016718th c Chinese Porcelain for the Thai or Southeast Asian MarketJapanese Sukiyaki or Shabu Shabu Nabe Pan
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    Posted 3 years ago

    ho2cultcha
    (5051 items)

    Another wonderful piece from Shangri-la - Bob Montague and Freek Pals. i'm never disappointed and always surprised at the quality of the pieces i get from them! I thought this was just a regular dinner plate, but as you can see it's about 12.5 inches in diameter. It stands a little over 2 inches high, so it's like a big, wide bowl. I just love the colors popular in Thailand! Just amazing and with the thick, goopy Qianlong glazes!

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    1. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
      I said platter, but meant to say 'charger'. i think that's correct?
    2. Newfld Newfld, 3 years ago
      Awesome and so colorful, beautiful glaze & gorgeous central flower (peony, chrysanthemum?). Love it!
    3. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      actually this is an extremely well charger far better than the other two
      look at the sliding of the colours on the right mid border in the purper flower, very nice slide out of the colour, which actually got enhanced by means of the darkening of the curvilinear part

      to me this piece tends to jiaqing , the reapparance in the alleged ZHU( bamboo )in the red garlands not blue ! it tends to reintroducing the homophone meaning of ZHU which means Hao Yuànwàng, something like i wish you all the best

      very well done Pete
    4. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
      thank you apostata and Newfld! i don't quite understand what makes it Jiaqing - 'slide out of color'?
    5. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      this ought to be an low value plate ( the other 2 are) but this is better
      its hard to date , normally qianlong is quite easy but this is export porcelain , and i think you are right it is probably for Thailand

      Actually we are committed to 1870-1820 so late mid qianlong to late Jiaging, the glazing is so heavy and and vibrant , so it it bencharong period mentioned

      but the ZHU ( bamboo ) garlands leads to an sort of theoratical shut out , there are almost late no mid late Qianlong pieces this way , and if there are they are mostly blue

      rather well charger ( among the Bencharong pieces ) low of value compared to other type of pieces
    6. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
      Thank you for that explanation. i can understand it better. i'm shocked that Bencharong chargers/plates - esp. early Bencharong - are of low value. i think the use of color is so interesting and beautiful in these pieces. I'm surprised that we haven't seen a similar increase in value as are the later Nyonya Straits pieces.
    7. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      i don,t know Pete , i buy it when it got blacklighted, and when the vividness of the design is right ( lets say the Yongzheng glare ) and if the inclination of the charger or bowl is congruent, there is no accounting for taste , no sweat
    8. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
      this is the first time i've heard of the 'Yongzheng glare'. i looked it up and it's interesting.

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