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    Posted 3 years ago

    Kernewek
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    I have also found this in my late grandfathers collection of war and such things. I think it may have a US connection but not sure. Can anyone advise. Many thanks

    It says ‘Extra Quality’ on the back.

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    1. dav2no1 dav2no1, 3 years ago
      Looked English to me...and not an eagle

      https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-livery-button-fierce-griffins-132466025
    2. dav2no1 dav2no1, 3 years ago
      https://sites.google.com/site/liverybuttonsidentified/home/griffin
    3. Kernewek, 3 years ago
      Thank you, that is really helpful. I am completely new to this but find it really interesting.
    4. rhineisfine rhineisfine, 3 years ago
      I agree, it's very likely to be a livery button. This is one I found on Pinterest that is similar, although the sprig of leaves in the mouth of this griffin (or gryphon) is different from the oak leaves yours has:
      https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/241998179949923876/

      Etsy currently has several examples of griffon/gryphon livery buttons, although none exactly like yours:
      https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/899200570/antique-livery-button-set-to-the-godsell
      https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/813165555/antique-silver-plate-livery-button-to
      https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/673221270/late-1800s-large-livery-button-firmin

      The one thing that makes me wonder about its origin, though, is the "EXTRA QUALITY" on the back. Based only on a quick perusal, I couldn't find any British livery buttons that have that on the back; but I did find "EXTRA QUALITY" stamped on the back of some American Civil-war era militia buttons (albeit in a very different font!). So I'm wondering if there's any possibility this might be an American livery button, if there is such a thing.
    5. rhineisfine rhineisfine, 3 years ago
      P.S. This document may be of interest:
      https://fashiondocbox.com/Jewelry/68019707-An-illustrated-revision-of-the-livery-button-classification.html
    6. Kernewek, 3 years ago
      Thank you for such useful information.

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