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    Posted 3 years ago

    Rwalters
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    Can someone tell me what kind of stove this is? I want to sell it but I don’t know what to call it. It was built in right next to my fireplace. The front has Orbon Stove Co and the back has a Speigel plate. Thank you!

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    1. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Hi, Rwalters. :-)

      You're not the only person with an Orbon KH-188. Somebody else had one and asked justanswer dot com about it:

      *snip*

      The labels say Union Label Silber mountain int. union K H 188 Pat. # 108227

      *snip*

      This sounds like a model HK 188 [sic] cast iron stove manufactured by the Orbon Stove Co. in Belleville IL circa 1910.

      *snip*

      https://www.justanswer.com/antiques/aaufj-thinking-purchasing-stove-friend.html

      Another person had one, and asked the folks at hearth dot com:

      *snip*

      I found this stove in a basement. It is marked with the following: Orbon Stove Co. Belleville Ill, PAT 108227, K-H 188. I have searched for three days and can barely find a shred of information on this particular stove. Has anyone ever seen or owned this stove before? The stove burns both coal and wood. It has both a square and round plate on the top that are removable. It also comes with four liner pieces that you can add when you want to burn coal.

      *snip*

      Here is a lot of history of the company. Once you get to the google doc click page 64

      http://books.google.com/books?id=sN...um=10&sqi=2&ved=0CGcQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=orbon stove&f=false


      *snip*

      https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/orbon-bucket-a-day-stove.72845/

      Here is the pertinent information from Page 64 of Ebony Rising: Short Fiction of the Greater Harlem Renaissance Era
      Craig Gable
      Indiana University Press, 2004 - Fiction - 552 pages

      *snip*

      Solomon and Mary Mueller are touring with family and friends. Solomon "Cider" Mueller (at right with hat in hand) operated a farm on Mascoutah Road, but retired to Belleville and invested in Queen City Stove & Range Co. in East St. Louis in 1901. In 1904, he and his partner, Henry A. Lengfelder, changed the name to Orbon Stove and moved the foundry to Belleville. The Weimars, close family friends of the Muellers, include Jacob Weimar (at left with hat in hand), who capitalized Belleville's Ideal Stove in 1909. Orbon became the largest stove foundry in Belleville. Sadly Weimar's Ideal burned to the ground in 1910.

      *snip*

      https://books.google.com/books?id=sNVY-bYB1hUC

      I was helping somebody else with a stove the other day, and tripped on this PDF of a 1930s history of Belleville. Here's what it has to say about Orbon:

      *snip*

      The Orbon Stove Company, originally organized as a nail
      mill in 1882, was reorganized in 1902 to manufacture stoves.
      It employs 295 people and has an average weekly pay roll of
      $7,000, and its president today is S. D. Vale. Since 1903 it
      has been located on the L. and N. tracks and Sycamore streets

      *snip*

      http://livinghistoryofillinois.com/pdf_files/History%20of%20Belleville,%20Illinois.pdf

      Here's the general area. Modern Sycamore Street dead ends shortly before the railroad tracks:

      https://goo.gl/maps/EuavrcQtgjBUx84NA

      FYI, I tried looking up that patent (108227) in the USPTO, but the utility patent for that number was something completely different. When I looked it up as a design patent, I did get a heating stove, but the patent is dated February 1, 1938 (sorry, I couldn't find a Google version of the patent listing. The USPTO doesn't play well with smart phones, so if you want to look at this listing, you'll need to use a desktop computer):

      https://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNum=0&docid=D0108227&IDKey=5EC48AE3279B%0D%0A&HomeUrl=%2F%2Fpatft.uspto.gov%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fpatimg.htm

      So, it's still a bit confusing. You could try asking the Belleville Labor & Industry Museum:

      http://www.laborandindustrymuseum.org/
    2. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Hi again, Rwalters. :-)

      I don't know how much it matter to you (it really should matter to Google Books), but that online book is not "Ebony Rising: Short Fiction of the Greater Harlem Renaissance Era" by Craig Gable, but rather "Images of America: Belleville 1814-1914"
      By
      Robert C. Fietsam Jr., Judy Bellville, and Jack Le Chien
      Photo Editor Robert L. Arndt

      Copyright 02004 by Robert C. Fietsam Jr., Judy Belleville, and Jack Le Chien ISBN 0-7385-3333-5
      Published by Arcadia Publishing Charleston SC, Chicago IL, Portsmouth NH, San Francisco CA
      Printed in Great Britain
      Library of Congress Catalog Card Number: 2004110909

      I suppose I should suck it up and tell Google Books about their little boo boo, but not today...
    3. keramikos, 3 years ago
      FYI, I contacted Google Books about that incorrect pairing of the book cover title ("Ebony Rising: Short Fiction of the Greater Harlem Renaissance Era) and the actual contents (Images of America: Belleville 1814-1914), and got a reply. They'll fix it, but it could take a month.

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