Posted 13 years ago
Fishysnacks
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I found this quarter because I always watch for pre '64 quarters when I am given change. I have never seen one like it. Something happened in the layering or sandwich process, it's center or 'copper' layer is recessed. Very close to the profile of an Oreo cookie. It looks fake, almost like the layers could be pulled apart, still I have a hard time believing anyone would counterfeit a quarter! Has anybody out there ever seen a minting error like this before? If so what would you call this kind of minting anomaly? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Any idea on rarity and value? Thanks!
I wonder if someone was trying to 'spoon' this quarter and didn't get very far? I don't remember how quickly the ridges were flattened with this method, but here's a link to an earlier post. http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/48783-error-dime?in=solved-mysteries
On the other hand, it might be a mint error, or some other defacement.
Hello, thanks for the reply. I don't think someone was trying to 'spoon' it...if that is where one pounds and rounds the edges over to make a ring. The 'copper' portion on the side of the coin is recessed in approx. 1/64" and yet still bears the ridges you see on any other quarter. Held beside any other quarter they match ridge spacing. The outer 'silver' portion of the coin on the edeges do not have the ridges. Some other kind of defacement you could be right, I'm not familiar with the minting process in 1992 and what could have gone wrong to cause this anomaly. Conversely the technical skill involved to acheive this as a 'defacement' and then let it go out into circulation is beyond me...I'm gonna keep it! If anyone wants better pictures let me know. Thanks.
Just two days ago , on ebay, a seller was offering a 1973 quarter with the back of the coin still in the copper alloy. The front was clad in the nickle-aluminum? alloy of a regular minted piece.
Rob, the coin isn't de-laminating. It seems more along the lines of having been rolled and pressed in along the center around the whole coin. I do appreciate everyones input! Thank you and keep it coming, we should be able to get to the bottom of this....unless it was magic...in which case it is woth lotsa money!!
Thanks ROBinHawaii, I have seen and had the same exp. with coins like these, you are correct, and it also makes them worthless, just 25 cents
I don't think this coin is a fake I also have one I believe is just like it. if you'd like you can view it on my profile and tell me what you think.
I have found a quarter exactly the same but its a 1973 has anyone found how this happened
It's acid damage, the copper core is affected way before the cladding. Eats it form the inside out. We've seen it a hundred times on our forum.
http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/
If its acid damage than how is it that the reed of the quarter still exists?? I also have a quarter with recessed reed?? I would think that has to b some kind of a miss print??!! I have never observed another coin to be like this one. Does anyone besides the person that says its acid damage have any knowledge on this.
I just found one of these today . Its a 1978 quarter with the copper core recessed approximately 1/64th of an inch I do have photos of it . It does also appear to have the ridges still intact as well
I would also think that due to the way acid works it would not be such an exact measurement all the way around the coin . And I believe the ridges would be eaten off the copper if that was the case .
I have a 1965 and has the same sandwich look
I to have a 1966 and 2007 Quarter, same like your. I believe it is in error , coming from the planchet roll . These are the tail ends of planchet rolls that are not flat and even with the same material . They put the Copper in the middle of the two other materials and you squeeze down to a certain dimension and as you keep squeezing and rolling you start to run out of the material at the end, it causes the uneven material,. Because of it was acid damage , wouldn't the coins look really pale like a chalk color ? I have a few Penny's that are acid damage,and they don't look like these Quarters, has anyone ever got them graded or look at by grader ? Not me yet.
The rim, which is the raised lip of metal around the periphery of a coin’s obverse (head’s side) and reverse (tail’s side), is prone to various types of errors. Broadstrikes
Coins are normally struck inside something called a retaining collar — which securely corrals the coin when being struck by the dies. The retaining collar helps form the coin’s edge and implants the thin vertical edge lines (known as reeds) on various coins such as dimes, quarters, and half dollars. These retaining collars also help shape the rim of the coin. So, when the retaining collar fails to deploy as the coin is being struck, several things happen:
The coin is stamped larger and flatter than ordinary
The edge won’t be struck with the reeding or edge lettering as appropriate
There will be no formed rim on the coin
I have a 1967 dime With a ridge around it just like that you can still see the lines on the inside I will attach a picture of it on my profile page
Whatever you do, don't let go of this quarter. It is by far in the best condition as any other one I've seen. I've only seen a few, but still, I have been having a hard time disqualifying the acid damage theory, even with my acid experiments. Until I seen yours that is. Anyways I think comment number 13 has got it pretty dead on. And there is another fact that backs up that theory and that is the so far findings of the number of these coins. The most being 2 in the same year. I'm curious how long have you had this coin. Person I found on ebay has a 1969 that he has held onto for over 20 years. Your coin is the newest one I've seen. And with how excellent the condition of it is in, when it is proven, and yes I did say when, yours will be one of the more valuable, because of it. People who give explanations like acid damage, with a quarter as beautiful as yours, is usually because they just don't know. And I've yet to find anyone who does say acid damage, to be able to back it up. And I've done tests with different types of acid and for lenthy amount of time and did research on different kinds of acid and how they react compared to different metals.
Spend it!
Who are you telling to spend it? Because I just noticed, it seems the person who wrote original post here, has not come back to it. That was 8 years ago. I also noticed you were there also. You must have chose the email me option to alert you when someone comments on this item. Why would you do that? And there have been other comments in-between then and now, yet no more comments from you. Not until now of course. 8 years later. And why "spend it"? If you think you know something we don't, then say it. Isn't that why we are here? And if you don't know something, that must mean you are here to learn. If that is the case, you shouldn't interrupt the teachers with disrupt out-bursts. It's not nice.
So, I really hope this is fresh enough to catch somebody's attention. On topic-1978 Sandwich Error? Is this a thing yet? I have one, I need help with identifying it. Just ask me I have tones of pics.
This is not an error it is just acid damage or a coin that spent a while in the ocean. I find these all the time when I go metal detecting on beaches and they look just like yours after I tumble them. And how would this happen in the minting process without crushing the nickel layer?
Something as simple as sitting in soda could cause damage, anything acidic can eat away at the copper.
A few years ago, I found a 2000 D South Carolina State Quarter with the sandwich or cookie like anomoly. I can't seem to find much info on these types of errors. I've gotten a few replies from coin forums and I'm being told it's an acid damaged coin. But those replies come with no other pics to or any explanations to back that up. Has anyone gotten an answer as to how this error occured. The coin I've got has several errors. If anyone can give a reply, I'd greatly appreciate it.
It's not an error it's damaged.
Kjhoran, Thank you again for demystifying some of the coin anomaly posts.
When will you be making a time-lapse twenty year film of a coin in salt water? j/k };-)
If it's damage from acid how does the center copper piece still have ridges like the edge of a normal quarter yet it is recessed and evenly spaced. I just found one of these but a 1985 and have been struggling to find much on them but mine shows no signs of acid erosion..???????
Because copper is a softer metal and gets eaten away faster than nickel, acid also eats it away evenly leaving the reeding intact.
Doesn't acid damage dull the coins luster? Acid would eat away at the copper quicker than it would nickel. In this case the copper appears to have more reeding than the nickel. Your explanation makes no sense.
You know cleaning exists right? Cause that's why it's shiny again
I just found the same issue on a quarter while coin roll hunting. 1995p. It looks like an Oreo cookie. The edges are reeded however there is a very distinct top and bottom layer that sticks out further than the copper middle layer. The coin is heavily circulated but with normal nicks and scratches. Very weird. I also don't agree with the acid assessment but I've only been collecting for a year and a half almost. It looks like each layer was cut with a cookie cutter and then they were bonded together rather than cut out of a premade roll... So weird.
Did you ever come to a definitive answer on this coin? I have a 2006 D dime with the same anomaly. Did you ever get the weight and diameter of your quarter? I'd be curious to see what that was.