Posted 12 years ago
chinablue
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Thanks to vetraio50, I am able to say this is a vase with a Chinese mark! :-) I've posted the mark right side up and 3 pictures of this vase. It is thick and heavy.. weighs about 2 pounds, but when you look down inside of it, you can see just how translucent it is. It stands almost 10 inches tall, the square base is just over 2 inches across. It graduates to nearly 3 1/4 at the shoulder. The mouth is just over 2 1/2 inches across. The surface is not actually rough but you can feel the texture of the design. Now I just need to know if anyone can tell me how old it may be and anything else such as the type of design, etc. I don't know much about this type of porcelain so anything you'd care to tell me would be greatly appreciated and probably news to me. I do know it's been around for most of my life, but that's about it.
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I know I know.. this is an odd post. But I wanted to put the marks up so that others could see them without having to stand on their heads! This is the bottom of a very heavy, very thick piece of porcelain I have. As soon as I get some idea of which way I should post the mark, I'll remove the others and post the vase. I have looked at gotheborg.com and a few others sites, but I know NOTHING about this type of marking. ANY ideas as to which way is up with this!??! And is it Chinese or Japanese? I'm at a total loss.... :•\
The second one is right way up. It's an older style of Chinese.
What a clever way to post the hallmark, chinablue. And a very handy connoisseur is vetraio50! Can't wait to see the vase! miKKo
Thank you vetraio! And thank you miKKo.. I figured it was the easiest way for someone that knew these things to see if they recognized it. I just posted one photo of it that is really horrible.Tomorrow I'll get some good pictures of it out in the daylight and get them on here.
Oh, and tomorrow when I post some decent pictures, I'll list the dimensions and weight.
As promised, I have some semi-decent pictures of this vase now. *LOL*
Hi, chinablue. The palette reminds me of Famille Verte, but I am too ignorant to say that this is Famille Verte, and have no opinion or guess whatsoever on possible markets (Chinese or export), pottery, or date. Is the pink swag unusual - would it indicate a possible export market? I post this just to get the discussion started....miKKo
Sean hasnt seen this yet?
Thanks miKKo, I appreciate your comment and trying to get the party started for me. I plan on going through some searches about the Famille Verte (brand new term for me!). Needless to say it's something I've never heard of and need to learn more about it.
and mikie, not that I know of...if so, I haven't seen any comments.
vetraio50, thanks again for telling me which way was up on the markings. Do you know anything else about this type of porcelain? I am at a TOTAL loss on this piece, except of course for which way the mark needed to be posted. :-)
Beautiful vase chinablue ! I am no help to you as I only an eyedropper worth of knowledge on pottery, china or glassware but I do love it :-)
Hi chinablue. To be honest I can give you no more about it. Famille verte is right. The other 'family' that is referred to is the pink Famille Rose. This one is not that old, I'd say. The mark does not refer to a period from what I can make out. It is in an early Chinese script that is used these days on 'seals'. It gives an ancient look to it. I don't want to be negative or appear negative about things, you know.
Hi, chinablue! I think vetraio50 knows more about porcelain that I. I just know a few areas, say Belleek, which I love, though don't own! I too thought that this probably wasn't old because the mark looks like a modern application. I also thought that the design of the flowers in the vase with the swag - and the 'daisies' on shoulder, neck, and body - were probably not authentic and old. But I am far too ignorant to venture a firm opinion on either the mark or the designs. I will say that I don't think that the painter was highly skilled. If my life depended on me venturing an opinion, I would guess relatively recent production, 'misleading' mark, common ware to be enjoyed but not cried over if broken. But I'm totally ignorant of Chinese porcelain.... This would be an attractive vase for daffodils and pink flowers. I thought it very clever the way that you photographed the hallmark in four different orientations. Loved it! Hope that your Fourth of July observance is splendid! Regards, miKKo
vetraio50, I appreciate you being so tactful, and you too, miKKo.
It's not a vase that I'm particularly fond of really.. just one that was packed in some things from my home place. I don't care for the colors on it and find it rather gaudy quite frankly. As miKKo said, it's a good vase to use in a place where an accident could happen to another vase that WOULD cause a few tears to be shed. Thanks for the love miKKo, Manikin and Jen! I'm going to call this mystery solved. I appreciate the insight.. and the tact. :-)
Hi, chinablue! Blue and white china is just the best, isn't it?
Hope your Fourth of July observance is splendid! Regards, miKKo
Thanks for the love, Hedgewalker! And yes, miKKo, blue and white is certainly best in my eyes. Just can't help myself! :-)
Gotheborg is a great site for figuring out Chinese marks: http://gotheborg.com/marks/20thcenturychina.shtml
you may want to post it there too. or the collecting chinese ceramics facebook page.
even though green is the major color in this, it has pink in it which i thought always signified famille rose. can anyone confirm or refute this? i'm curious.
they probably want to represent an abbreviated da qing qianlong nian zh
it is so extremely that is almost impossible to read
this is quite new
famille verte imitation see KAngxi , but this vase is unfortunately an fake and see Kangxi revival actually it is lets say EXTREMe eufemistic an imitation of an IMITATION famille verte vase kangxi REVIVAL the whole vase is totally BOGUS,