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    Posted 12 years ago

    kunsthammer
    (2 items)

    I would like to share with you an unsolved mistery of what I think is a high quality French artglass Cameo vase. Many years ago I bought it at a German auction house in a large lot together with many other high quality French, German and Bohemian artglass objects.

    The vase stands a whooping 39,5 cm or 15 1/2" tall and is made out of white glass with powder inclusions and overlayed with what I think is four differently colored layers of glass- light red, dark red, light brown and olive green. The body is twisted and has the appearance of frozen water. It is fire polished and has a polished pontil (which is not as sharp as usual because it was fire polished after it has been taken off the hot iron). The inside of the vase shows ripples which encourages the effect of frozen water even more.
    All the leaves and flowers are cameo glass technique except the ones at the top which have engraved veins.

    From my experience I would date it as French between 1895-1910.
    The rest is up to you! What do you think? Have you got any idea who the maker is?
    Every little piece of help is highly appreciated!

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    1. AmberRose AmberRose, 12 years ago
      Wow pretty. Reminds me of Galle. There are a bunch of really smart glass folk on this site so I am sure they will figure it out.
    2. kunsthammer kunsthammer, 12 years ago
      Dear AmberRose, thank you, I really love it too! Yes, I am sure we can figure it out together!
    3. scottvez scottvez, 12 years ago
      I would lean toward Mont Joye.

      It is FANTASTIC, whoever created it!

      scott
    4. inky inky, 12 years ago
      Gorgeous!...:-)
    5. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 12 years ago
      My money is on Art nouveau period Harrach. Gorgeous gorgeous stuff! I love it to bits.
    6. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 12 years ago
      I have an art nouveau piece from harrach with this kind of back ground and they show some similar examples in the new Harrach book (as well as having seen them in the Harrach museum and UPM)
    7. cogito cogito, 12 years ago
      Mont Joye seems like a logical choice, but the detailing is superior to anything I've seen from them so far. Harrach is another good lead...sounds like GSO has references to point to to support that attribution.
    8. scottvez scottvez, 12 years ago
      Legras would be another possibility.

      scott
    9. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 12 years ago
      Most beautiful!!
    10. Stillwater Stillwater, 12 years ago
      Oh my god... That is a killer piece, probably worth some good money
      It could be a Mont Joye, though I'm not an expert in art glass. Do some Googling on it
      God that is so fantastic.. I'd put that in my house
    11. ozmarty ozmarty, 12 years ago
      In form and decoration this is one of the most beautiful pieces Ive seen for a while.
    12. ozmarty ozmarty, 12 years ago
      Eureka! On Page 14 Plate 7. of The Art of French Glass 1860- 1914 by Janine Bloch- Dermant . , is a vase with exact shape and quality .
      Monot, Stumpf, Viollet & Cie .
      Circa 1900.
      Pantin

      If you would like a furth description I'll try to take phoyo of the image .

    13. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 12 years ago
      sure pics. what is the rational behind her assessment of hte piece? is it marked? is this a trusted author over all? the book is from 1980 before the walls came down, it seems like a lot of the time these books aren't terribly reliable. but YMMV
    14. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 12 years ago
      and I really don't know. I don't know this author. I am just saying in general :)
    15. ozmarty ozmarty, 12 years ago
      http://members.iinet.net.au/~martyhoenig/newwebpantinwc.jpg
    16. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 12 years ago
      yup, you hit it Ozmarty. here is one that is signed

      http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/1066416
    17. ozmarty ozmarty, 12 years ago
      Monte Joy is one of the house brands / marks ? of the Cristallerie de Pantin.
      I believe the example in the photo I just put a link to says it is in the Musee du Conservatoire Des Arts et Metiers Paris .
    18. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 12 years ago
      It looks like this wavy back ground was pretty signature for them.
    19. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 12 years ago
      pantin was it's own company until the 20's iirc. Mont joye legras and st denis and pantin were all under the same umbrella, but not always. at least that's my remembrance.
    20. ozmarty ozmarty, 12 years ago
      """
      deVez, Mont Joye, and Pantin: ~

      Cameo glass bearing the name "deVez," "Mont Joye," and "Pantin" was produced by the same company. E. S. Monot at La Villette near Paris founded this company in 1850. In 1859, known as "Cristallerie de La Villette" the company was transferred to Pantin, at that time a suburb of Paris and now a part of Paris. After F. Stumpf joined the company in 1868 it became "Monot & Stumpf." In 1873 Monot's son joined the company and the name changed to "Monot, Pere et Fils et Stumpf." About 1894 the company became known as the "Stumpf, Touvier, Violette & Cooye," and the same company produced "Pantin" E. S. Monot at La Villette near Paris founded this company in 1850. """

      Pantin merged with Legras circa 1915.
    21. SteveS SteveS, 12 years ago
      Thanks Marty
      .... leaning towards "Wizardry" ...
      :-)
    22. kunsthammer kunsthammer, 12 years ago
      I am stunned by all the excellent and well founded comments that I get on this beautiful piece.
      Thank you all very much for the support and a special thanks to ozmarty for discovering the origin of this piece and the sharp background information!
      Also a warm thank you to Greatsnowyowl for finding a VERY simmilar piece, this is highly appreciated. scottvez hint was very helping too, thank you.
      I am delighted to be part of a community like that!

      So I hope I make the correct resumé now:
      The Vase was produced by the glass company "Stumpf, Touvier, Violette & Cooye" which also produced pieces known as "Cristallerie de Pantin". The vase was produced between 1894 and 1910.
    23. ozmarty ozmarty, 12 years ago
      Hi Kunsthammmer , All of this is what this site is about ... sharing our knowledge and appreciation of beautiful things .
    24. kunsthammer kunsthammer, 12 years ago
      @ozmarty: I think I can get used to that! Time to share a little bit more of my collection I guess!
    25. ozmarty ozmarty, 12 years ago
      Please Do !! I just realized that I have been in your shop in Vienna. I stumbled upon it one afternoon and my jaw dropped at all the WW and Loetz etc ...
    26. kunsthammer kunsthammer, 12 years ago
      What I coincidence! I am glad you enjoyed it and please be sure to drop by the next time you are in Vienna so I can say thank you with a cup of coffee!
    27. ozmarty ozmarty, 12 years ago
      Will do , ..but I'm sure it will be a few years away we are only just back a few weeks from Europe and will have to save the pennies for the next O/S adventure. Did not go to Vienna this time .
    28. ozmarty ozmarty, 12 years ago
      Just a Seasons Greeting and a request for you to post some more of your treasures on C W in the new year !!
      All the best from Downunder Marty
    29. kunsthammer kunsthammer, 12 years ago
      Dear Marty, I would love to and I will certainly do so in the next year. I wish you all the best and take care. Warm holiday greetings from Austria.
    30. jericho jericho, 11 years ago
      Post some Titania....greetings from a recent friend, Jericho
    31. Beyermann Beyermann, 5 months ago
      A beautiful vase! Thank you all, it´s been very interesting to read this long conversation and so great to manage to clue out a maker! / Marie (Late as always...)

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