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    Posted 12 years ago

    dempseycol…
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    I received these years ago and still are not sure if they are authentic. I have more also. I looked and tried to do my research.....there just seems to be many diffeent versions from other areas. Let me know what you think on authenticity. Thank you

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    1. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      first try a magnet when it sticks you are in trouble ,may be very much later , i look to it, cant see well now ( MAYBE !)
    2. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      ok i hope i am right , i am not an expert in this

      1 first you to use a magnet, when it sticks you are toast
      2 you got to weigh them , the 1 dollar must yuan ) must be around 26,7 gram
      3by lack of PGCS garantie or certification ( IMO they are in trouble , outplayed by Chinese experts ) , or Stacks and Bowers auction we have to do it ourselves
      4 when it is silver which is not likely we have to validate ourselves

      when it is real silver we have to assess how the rarity ratio 0 =low 100= high
      this coins have no then 51 which is not rare

      the second thing we got to do is bullion value which which the melt down value for the 1 yuan = 1 dollar , the silver if this silver value is around 17,81 for this
      coins

      so we could narrow it by means of and magnet and an rule on the weight ( nickle plating, and rarity apearence

      how likely is this be silver , not so likely, see for instance chinese coin forum , the expert linlaujiou about the shaping etc reply october 13 2017, also the coins are missing blackening, concerning tai ching ti kuo

      there are no inconsistencies in the between the english and chinese flipsides , ( sometimes the copie - paste two different sides together)

      coin number 3 and 8 hu peh sheng tsao reverse hsuan tung yuan pao, qualification Y 131 and an y 127 - IMO 1909-1911 ( but is probably fake)

      brown coin left under with flags , something like end guanghu , but probably early , might be related to on the flip side with CAO Kun or Tang Jiyao

      the brown coin left under on the right is a rare curiosity , IMO an coin Xuantong period , and probably before Xinhai- Geming ( is the revolution)

      i am certainly not an expert in this far from that but because silver is better than fakes

      substantiation for the rarity equation comparison catawiki lotnumber 33203061 and 411184247 these are , and they don,t do much



      still some value left , when it are fakes it are nice fake
    3. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      addendum brown coin left under EARLY REPUBLIC
    4. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      addendum Linlaujiou ( Chinese coin forum)

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