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    Posted 12 years ago

    vetraio50
    (756 items)

    A posting for bazelmania, blunderbuss, valkma and agram!

    Gelukkige koning(inne)dag!
    April 30 is an important Day in the Netherlands.
    Queen's Day becomes King's Day.
    Today is the day when the new Dutch King takes over from his mother.

    This is a commemorative plate from the De Porceleyne Fles v/h Joost Thooft en Labouchère, Delftsch Aardewerkfabriek that dates to 1919. It has a lot of history on the face of it and more besides.

    I bought it six months ago from the Monthly Collector's Fair here in Sydney. As you may know I have an interest in things Dutch. When I first saw it I knew that it was different to most of the pieces you see from the Delft factory. What immediately caught my eye was the date 1919, the year of my father's birth. I went and got my friend Alex who is Dutch and asked his opinion. We both loved it and so I decided to buy at the good and hefty price.

    The plate is about Trade & Colonisation. It commemorates 300 years of the VOC in Asia : de Vereenigde Oost-Indische Compagnie or the United East India Company, the world's first multinational and the first megacorporation. "In 1619 Jan Pieterszoon Coen was appointed Governor-General of the VOC.

    He saw the possibility of the VOC becoming an Asian power, both political and economic. On 30 May 1619, Coen, backed by a force of nineteen ships, stormed Jayakarta driving out the Banten forces; and from the ashes established Batavia as the VOC headquarters.

    In the 1620s almost the entire native population of the Banda Islands was driven away, starved to death, or killed in an attempt to replace them with Dutch plantations. These plantations were used to grow cloves and nutmeg for export. Coen hoped to settle large numbers of Dutch colonists in the East Indies, but implementation of this policy never materialized, mainly because very few Dutch were willing to emigrate to Asia." Wikipedia.

    The choice of the name Batavia is interesting in itself. The politics of colonisation. If you occupy a place you give it a name and it is yours.

    Sunda Kelapa became Jayakarta became Batavia became Jakarta.

    "Batavia (region), a land inhabited by the Batavian people during the Roman Empire, today part of the Netherlands.

    Batavia is the Latin name for the land of the Batavians during Roman times. This was roughly the area around the city of Nijmegen, Netherlands, within the Roman Empire. The remainder of this land is nowadays known as Betuwe. During the Renaissance, Dutch historians tried to promote these Batavians to the status of "forefathers" of the Dutch people. They started to call themselves Batavians, later resulting in the Batavian Republic, and took the name "Batavia" to their colonies such as the Dutch East Indies, where they founded the city that was called Batavia from 1619 until about 1942, when its name was changed to Djakarta (later respelt Jakarta; see: History of Jakarta). The name was also used in Suriname, where they founded Batavia, Suriname, and in the United States where they founded the city and the town of Batavia, New York. This name spread further west in the United States to such places as Batavia, Illinois, near Chicago, and Batavia, Ohio." http://curusetra.wordpress.com/tag/batavia/

    My friend Alex's family were some of those emigrants and Alex was born in Jakarta. This plate has significance for those Dutch ex-pat settlers. He moved to Australia after Indonesian independence.

    But Batavia also has a significance here in Australia too. Off the coast of Western Australia lie the remains of a VOC ship called the Batavia that ran aground on these shores in 1629. I flew over these reefs last year in four seater plane on a trip most spectacular along the coast near Geraldton. A place of stunning beauty, desolation and danger. The Dutch were early visitors to Australia or New Holland.

    "On 4 June 1629 the ship struck Morning Reef near Beacon Island ... , part of the Houtman Abrolhos off the Western Australian coast. Of the 322 aboard, most of the passengers and crew managed to get ashore, although 40 people drowned. The survivors, including all the women and children, were then transferred to nearby islands in the ship's longboat and yawl."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batavia_(ship)

    A tale of mutiny, murder and final rescue!

    The design of the plate is attributed to Adolf Le Comte. It is also an example of ceramic innovations at the Delft Factory. In 1909 the factory allowed Le Comte to experiment with colours. This is a period at the factory called NIEUW DELFTS. Le Comte's palette is based on that of "Islamitisch Keramiek" or Islamic Ceramics: green, blue and red on a white slip background. A special, transparent glaze was used to produce the highly distinctive “running” colour effects. On this plate they are used primarily in the border decoration which has the inscription of the VOC slogan: 'de cost gaet voor de baet uit' 1598 - "It takes money to make money."

    The 1598 refers to the beginnings of the Spice Trade with the departure of five ships from Rotterdam: De Hoop disappeared in the Pacific, De Liefde arrived in Japan with 24 out of a crew of 110, Het Geloof lost its way for a while and returned to Rotterdam without having landed anywhere, De Trouw still had a crew of 24 out of 89 when it was captured by the Portuguese in Tidore, where all were murdered and De Blijde Boodschap surrendered to the Spanish at Valparaiso.

    De cost gaet voor de baet uit!
    The costs were high indeed for spices like mace, nutmeg and cloves!

    When researching the plate I found that there is another in the Keramiekmuseum Princessehof in Leeuwarden. It is slightly different in the cloud detail of the painting of my plate and shows that each plate in the series made is hand painted to a design by Adolf Le Comte. On the back of my plate is the number 817. I do not know of its significance. Note the signature on the back of the plate as well. Perhaps the artist was the famous Leon Senf? Is that his mark within the design of the plate between the letters VOC?

    Of interest as well are the two badges to the left and right of the plate. On the left is the coat of arms of the city of Jakarta and to the right is that of the region of Zuid Holland. These are hand done on each plate and are similar to the work on the Porceleyne Fles Cloissonnée tiles from 1907 onwards. However on these plates the work is done without 'cloison' borders. Really neat!

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    Comments

    1. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 12 years ago
      WOW, what a dissertation! fascinating & thanks. You obviously know more about our dutch heritage than I do. I admire anybody who can speak dutch, - even if born & raised there. Carnival has had things closed since Friday & then we have Queen's day(now King's Day) which I thought was the Queen's birthday. Getting to the point, I'M RUNNING OUT OF CORONA! 6 days of everything closed is enough!!
    2. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      I hope the drought will be over soon!
      No Oranjeboom, blunderbuss?
      Thanks too to maryh & mustangT too!
    3. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks bratjdd!
    4. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Some detail about 2014: King's Day Amsterdam.
      King's Day: different name and date. Same party!
      In 2013, it's going to be a special Queen's Day, because of the inauguration, but also because it's the last Queen's Day. At least for the near future. .......
      From 2014 Queen's Day is going to be known as King's Day and will be held on the birthday of (future) King Willem-Alexander, April 27th. However, 2014 is immediately an exception. Because April 27th in 2014 is Sunday, King's Day will be held the day before, April 26th. But from 2015 on King's Day will be on April 27.
    5. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 12 years ago
      WOWZA!!! Very Cool!!! Keep it coming...learning from the PROS!!!
    6. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks MoonstoneL!
    7. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 12 years ago
      vetraio50, thank you for sharing! The only plate I know to attain is a large Antique Imari plate...lol made in Japan :0 This plate is gorgeous!!! I love and respect your knowledge in all things material :)))
    8. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks Sean!
      Enjoy the new place!
      Exciting!
    9. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks, inky!
    10. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks nldionne and TedStraub too!
    11. NativeJewelerylovers NativeJewelerylovers, 12 years ago
      Very nice and great history lesson to boot. I love the research of the history. Great find....with so much meaning.
    12. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks NativeJewelryLover!
    13. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks Phil, petey and Don too!
    14. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 12 years ago
      We have a King & Corona rationing is almost over!! By the way, that 1919 is a bit misleading as VOC imploded over a century earlier.
    15. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Hi blunderbuss! They are replaying Death in Paradise on Foxtel here in Oz at the moment. Every time we see the add I think not only of Guadeloupe but of those Dutch islands to the North. Soooooo beautiful.

      I think the 300 years is about the Dutch colony of Batavia rather than the VOC. The VOC dates a bit earlier too: 1602. Mind you any time you see the VOC emblem it seems to take control.

      I'm glad that your isolation is soon to be drowned in crowns!
    16. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 12 years ago
      D.I.P.? Just looked it up. Saw the ending of 1 & thought it was a movie & now know it it was a series. Wondered why the cops wore Fr. warrant tabs working with a Brit.. Don't think the series ran here.
      Well, last week Corona was getting scarce because the Corona boat "she no come in" so I put away a couple of cases, thank God. Was going to The Soggy Dollar to keep from using up stock, and there was a "jump-up" jamming the road from the Fr. side to the dutch side. Good thing I wasn't packing! All those targets passing by like a shooting gallery. Hope the Corona boat, "he" soon come mon!
    17. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      The Spice Trade became The Corona Trade.
      Got Soggy? Got josted?
      No Fosters or VB?
      The webcam at the Soggy Dollar is offline.
    18. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks Tonino!
    19. artislove artislove, 12 years ago
      super dish!!
    20. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks artislove!
    21. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks AmberRose!
    22. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks musikchoo!
    23. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Hi Sean, we're both well on Tuesday morning. Moving is such bitter sorrow! No luck at the Collector's fair on Sunday, nor yesterday, hoping for a good day at the ops this morning. We live in hope!
    24. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 12 years ago
      Bravo!!! Good to see you in top form, sir!!! Please take care! Regards, miKKo : )
    25. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Hi miKKo! Thanks for your kind comments. Hope you are well!
    26. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks Manikin!
    27. miKKoChristmas11 miKKoChristmas11, 12 years ago
      Thanks much, vetraio, for your kind greeting!!! I am hanging in there! Hope that you are well, too. I've kept you in my prayers, sir. Take care, see you later! : )
    28. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks czechman!
    29. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks Phil and JayHow!
    30. antiquarius123 antiquarius123, 12 years ago
      Great posting and thanks for sharing your research with all of us at CW!!
    31. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks antiquarius123!
    32. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks mikelv85!
    33. vetraio50 vetraio50, 12 years ago
      Many thanks musikchoo!
    34. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 years ago
      Many thanks SEAN68!
    35. SEAN68 SEAN68, 11 years ago
      your very welcome KevinG:)
    36. Stillwater Stillwater, 11 years ago
      I found the mark, they're saying its Porceleyne Fles. Its a bit different from the normal one though. Maybe an older mark? What do you think?

      http://www.jasonjacques.com/artworks/iridescent-web-fld001/#1
    37. Stillwater Stillwater, 11 years ago
      Oh whoops, looks like you already identified it, didn't see that
    38. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 years ago
      Thanks Stillwater! This is what I call a shadow mark. I've only seen it on NIEUW DELFTS pieces: the lustre pieces. I'm not sure if it is an indicator of Leon Senf or not.
    39. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 years ago
      Many thanks NORDICMAN, BRATJDD 'n AGHCOLLECT too!
    40. friendofvincent33 friendofvincent33, 10 years ago
      Incredible! Thank you, for the wonderful pictures and information. Love it!
    41. vetraio50 vetraio50, 10 years ago
      Many thanks FRIEND OF VINCENT!!!!
    42. vetraio50 vetraio50, 10 years ago
      Many thanks NORDICMAN !!!!!
    43. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks CAPERKID !!! !!! !!!
    44. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Many thanks DLPETERSEN !!!!!!!
    45. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks THOMAS !!,!!!,!!

      GET BETTER SOON !!!!
    46. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks HUNTERQLEE !.!!.!.!!.!
    47. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks NEWFLD!.!.!!.!.!
    48. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Many thanks ASITHA !.!!!!.!

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