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    Posted 12 years ago

    BHock45
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    Hello everyone. I wanted to get these posted to have some opinions on them. I already have my opinion, that is, that they are fantastic. I believe they are called Brush Pots. Not 100 percent sure.

    I am looking for someone with expertise in this area to help me date these. A few things to note....

    The insides of the two are unglazed. The lip of each is slightly rounded, and obviously the two pictures differ. One has a dragon moving toward a ball in the middle. Both have the same lettering on the back of the pot. I mean...to me these look old. Under high magnification I see some tiny holes in the glaze. Also, they're are tiny hairline fractures in some areas. The bottom shows wear but nothing to indicate they are hundreds of years old.

    I studied the two pots based on their features instead of the mark at the bottom. I would, however, love to know more about these marks. Thanks for looking!!!

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    1. BHock45 BHock45, 12 years ago
      thank you nldionne bratjdd, mustangtony and vetraio.
    2. BHock45 BHock45, 12 years ago
      thank you carmenisacat!
    3. BHock45 BHock45, 12 years ago
      anyone have any thoughts on these? 1900's?
    4. BHock45 BHock45, 12 years ago
      could these be "bleu de hue"?

      http://www.gotheborg.com/glossary/bleudehue.shtml
    5. BHock45 BHock45, 12 years ago
      Some have poem on them. One common two character mark reads Nei Fu, and can be translated as "Inner Court". Blue de Hue wares were made in China for the Vietnamese dynasties in the 18th and 19th century until after the revolution led by Dr. Sun Yat-sen. At the end of the 19th century metal rims vere popular, to protect the rim from damages.
    6. mikelv85 mikelv85, 12 years ago
      I could ask my friend to translate the mark. He and his wife both speak and read Chinese and a little Japanese. He did my blue and white marks for me and what he said matched what I had looked up. Marks on Asian pieces almost never date them accurately unlike European pottery. They can use them years out the dynasty timeline. It's still fun to know what they say though.
    7. BHock45 BHock45, 12 years ago
      very interesting, yes mikelv85 that would be great! If you could ask him about the marks on the bottom, and I believe the two marks are different. The first letter/symbol I believe is Han, the one in the top right, I believe it means something like sky or heaven. But I really have no clue what I am doing. So yes please ask!!! Thanks!
    8. BHock45 BHock45, 12 years ago
      I do think I figured out the marking on the back side of the cup. The large circle seen in the third image. I believe this is "show", a form of compliment, like "many wishes for a long happy life"

      http://books.google.com/books?id=0HcBAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

      page 195
    9. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      unfortunately this won ,t work, this is kangzhi written in the new way , this is not even kangxi revival , and the glazing is off, this is quite a new piece
    10. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      this is art of the famous chinese riddle an 4 character Wan Shou Wu Jiang-decorations

      and the whole ( 4 character riddle is the best to compare to ( spock - startrek )
      live long and prosper

      they isolated the WAn symbol which means 10.000 which actually is a metaphor not for 10000, but for endless

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