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    Posted 11 years ago

    nldionne
    (251 items)

    This is my second liberty bell with the wrong date. Different bell color, this one is harder to find than white bell. Has July 8 1776. Quality control was off that day. Is from 1954. 10 x 8 1/4. Other side days and a nation is born. HNH top 100 list.

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    1. nldionne nldionne, 11 years ago
      Thanks Phil
    2. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 11 years ago
      I love it because the dates are still in question with many published opinions. The one I have figured as near the truth, is that the declaration was approved on the 2'nd, the printers dated it the 4th because that was the day the printed it, and the 1st signature(guess who?) was on the 6th. Most evidence seems to point to King George not ever seeing it. It took many months for the others to sign as many, if not most were reluctant as it was signing a declaration of treason. By almost all sources, July 4th is an arbitrary date.
    3. nldionne nldionne, 11 years ago
      Very cool! Thanks for the history lesson
    4. nldionne nldionne, 11 years ago
      I remember getting into this discussion with Mustang when I posted my white one four months ago, or was it eight:)))
    5. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 11 years ago
      To be honest, I entered that poste being curious as what kind of responses would come. Got to keep the sh-t stirred or it gets lumpy. I'm curious as to what the want-a-be replied in your "white one". Don't lead me into temptation, just point me in the right direction & I will find it on my own.
    6. nldionne nldionne, 11 years ago
      Thanks Mustang, Petey, Mike
    7. vetraio50 vetraio50, 11 years ago
      In Australia I was a bit perplexed too!
      I've now seen the rarer 4th of July version.
      Sidney Cope did not know his history .... In 1953 ...... Born in England ...... "Cope was not well-educated in all things America, and the original version had a wrong date. A majority of the wrong versions were produced before the error was noticed and corrected ..."

      But didn't the Bell ring on July 8?
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Bell

      "The bell became famous after an 1847 short story claimed that an aged bell-ringer rang it on July 4, 1776, upon hearing of the Second Continental Congress's vote for independence. Despite the fact that the bell did not ring for independence on that July 4, the tale was widely accepted as fact, even by some historians."

      "A big reason why the bell became famous was because of a writer named George Lippard. On January 2, 1847, his story "Fourth of July, 1776" appeared in Saturday Review magazine. The short story was about an old man on July 4, 1776. It described how he was sitting sadly by the bell, afraid that Congress would not be able to declare independence. Suddenly, a young boy comes to tell the old man to ring the bell. The story was widely reprinted. This made people think of the Liberty Bell and the Declaration of Independence as closely related."

      Now I understand!
      The Power of Urban Myth is not just an online phenomenon.

    8. nldionne nldionne, 11 years ago
      Thanks Vetraio. I have been watching for the correct date bell.
    9. nldionne nldionne, 11 years ago
      Thanks Moonstone
    10. nldionne nldionne, 11 years ago
      Thanks Bellin
    11. Savoychina1 Savoychina1, 11 years ago
      From Chiquita Prestwood, past President of the McCoy Collectors Society... yes it was produced both ways. let me see if i can get this straight!


      Leslie Copes who designed a lot of McCoy items in the fifties was English. He was known to research his itmes...and when he checked on Independence Day, the actual signing of the Declaration of Independence was July 8th I believe and that's why he used that day. When it was discovered , the date was changed on the planters...either is not easy to find but I do believe I had the 8th before I ever found the 4th!


      Chiquita


      It wasn't an erraor actually...Mr. Cope knew what he was doing! :)

      quita
    12. Savoychina1 Savoychina1, 11 years ago
      I repliedChiquita,

      Actually the Declaration was signed on the 4TH. The Liberty bell was rung on the 8TH to call the people together for the first public reading of the Declaration. Could it have been that it was decided to honor the SIGNING rather than the ringing of the bell?

      She agreed. yOU'RE correct. And Mr. Cope being an Englishman didn't look at the importance the way "we" did at tht time.



      quita
    13. nldionne nldionne, 11 years ago
      I am still looking for the 4th. Have 2 8th.
    14. nldionne nldionne, 11 years ago
      Thanks Savoy, the correct date is a lot harder to find!

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