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    Posted 11 years ago

    rniederman
    (346 items)

    Happy July 4th! Here’s a pair of pictures of a patriotic gal posing with a 48 star flag (1912 – 1959). These are contemporary prints made from original 5” x 7” glass plate negatives in my collection. Given the pictures were shot on plates instead of sheet film; they probably date no later than WW1.

    I’m unsure what these fascinating images represent or imply, or whether it was proper to have the flag on the ground, but they are captivating. What do the CW folks think?

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    1. scottvez scottvez, 11 years ago
      GREAT Patriotic images-- Happy 4th!

      While the woman looks earlier (to me), the 48 star flag puts it at 1912 at the earliest.

      I would think that this is a WW1 creation.

      scott
    2. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      Thanks, Scott! I too was thinking this could be tied to WW1.
    3. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      Phil ... funny thought!
    4. nldionne nldionne, 11 years ago
      Love this pic, thanks for sharing.
    5. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      Thanks, vetraio50!
    6. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      Thanks, walksoftly!
    7. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      Thanks, inky!
    8. Manikin Manikin, 11 years ago
      What a great image inky !!!!!!!!!! love it !***
    9. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      Thanks, mustangtony ... great information!
    10. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      Thanks, AmberRose!
    11. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      Thanks, nldionne!
    12. scottvez scottvez, 11 years ago
      You have to be careful of using modern judgements to evaluate an antique image. In the era of the image, the flag placement/ flag dress would not have been considered disrespectful.

      scott
    13. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      Thanks, bratjdd and Manikin!
    14. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      Thanks, Sean!
    15. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      Thanks, Hardbrake!
    16. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      Thanks, MattyG!
    17. MJTuc MJTuc, 11 years ago
      You have a very nice eye to capture the moment. I've always felt photography is like an pro athlete, and an Art form. Only someone who know true art can create it intentionally/not by accident. I hope you understood what I was say there but Not everyone can do it.
      ------------------------------------------------------------
      I ready your comment to Sean about the Cubs.
      LOL,, rniederman...
      St. Louis fans silently do cheer you on. But I'm convinced a little change to Wrigley like removing the Wall of brick and padding it. The cubs either can't get or hold onto top notch outfielders. Spark the change and ride it to win.
    18. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      MJTuc ... yep, I know what you're saying. Spot on. BTW ... I studied with Ansel Adams in one of his Yosemite workshops in 1980. The CW icon of me was photographed by Marion Patterson at the workshop - it's a manipulated SX70 image. Thanks!
    19. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      Thanks, gargoylecollector!
    20. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      This is kind of cool ... check out Ben Marks' article of November 6 about Women and Children: The Secret Weapons of World War I Propaganda Posters at:

      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/women-and-children-the-secret-weapons-of-world-war-i-propaganda-posters/

      Specifically, go to image #19. It is conceptually similar to the first photograph of this post - both women are dressed in the American flag with alike poses (not exactly the same). It somewhat supports Scott's comment of how the flag was viewed back in the day as well as the timeline.

      No research has been done to tie the photograph to the poster, but it was a common practice for artists to create works based on photographs. I'm not implying this is the case here, but was struck by the similarity of the images and wanted to share.
    21. rniederman rniederman, 11 years ago
      Thanks again, Inky!
    22. rniederman rniederman, 10 years ago
      Happy 4th all!
    23. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 10 years ago
      and a happy 4th to you too, miederman!
    24. rniederman rniederman, 10 years ago
      Thanks, pops52!
    25. rniederman rniederman, 10 years ago
      Thanks, ho2cultcha!
    26. rniederman rniederman, 10 years ago
      Thanks, ttomtucker!
    27. rniederman rniederman, 10 years ago
      Thanks, CindB!
    28. rniederman rniederman, 9 years ago
      Thanks, ho2cultcha!
    29. PostCardCollector PostCardCollector, 9 years ago
      Got to get out the old sewing machine and whip me up a dress like that for the next July 4th. By the way, I have never seen a flag rug.
    30. rniederman rniederman, 9 years ago
      Thanks for the comment, PostCardCollector. Let us know if you make a dress.

      Anyhow, the 'rug' seen in the second images is not a rug. It's the wall mounted flag (shown in the first image) placed onto the floor. While this might appear disrespectful, it was not back in the day. Scott (scottvez) is a good historian who can comment on this.
    31. rniederman rniederman, 8 years ago
      Thanks!
      Thomas
      mareredware
    32. rniederman rniederman, 7 years ago
      Overdue thanks!
      Caperkid
      bijoucaillouvintage
      kerry10456
    33. rniederman rniederman, 6 years ago
      Happy 4th!
    34. rniederman rniederman, 6 years ago
      Thanks!
      mareredware
      Auntiques
      ho2cultcha

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