Posted 11 years ago
rniederman
(347 items)
Presented here is a pair of CDV images of cute kids – probably shot in the mid-to-late 1870s. Normally I don’t acquire images like these, but I was intrigued by the fragile yet delicately molded, ornate pasteboard (or straw-board) frames.
A handwritten note on the tissue of the kids-in-the-chair image says; “Wheeler-Wis - Ruths Grandmothers Brother.” This leads me to believe the smaller of the two children on the chair is a boy. The city of “Antigo, Wis” is written on the other image. I am unsure if the baby picture is of the same children as shown in the chair, but their family resemblance and expressions are similar.
The albumen CDVs are adhered to thin tissues which are attached to the rear of the rich chocolate-brown colored frames. Over the years I’ve seen lots of thermoplastic union cases and frames but never have I encountered paper frames such as these. The third image was shot to convey each frame’s wonderful relief and detail.
In regards to the frames themselves, I found an 1875 patent for Improvements in Paper Picture-Frames noting: “... it consists in constructing the frame and back of one continuous piece of pasteboard or straw-board, papered or painted, or card board, which may be ornamented in any desired manner to suit the fancy, or to give the best effect to the picture or article placed within such frame.”
Regardless, the kids are pretty cute.
Wonderful to see them!
Thanks, officialfuel!
Thanks, LeahGoodwin!
I have seen these type of frames before, rob. Usually they are fairly dinged up.
scott
Thanks again, Scott ... I had never seen this type of frame before. I guess I should spend more time with images at some point.
stunning!!! love the photos!!!
Thanks, bratjdd!
Thanks, vetraio50!
Rob, when you have a chance pls take a look at my Ideal Camera image again.
I posted additional photos, are there any signs that help to tell if this was made to take whole plates or smaller images?
Link:
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/97346-help-in-identifying-camera-in-this-cabin?in=user
scott
Thanks, charcoal!
Thanks, sarahoff!
Thanks, Eric!
Please don't take this wrong, but everytime I view the first photo I wonder if it could possibly be a post mortem photo of the baby. So before I even mentioned anything I looked into it and was surprised at how many family photos were taken with a recently deceased loved one with their eyes left open.
Please (sarah) don't take my comments the wrong way, but both children are alive. No signs of rigor with no support (one child stands freely while other sits without support).
Post Mortem images usually command pretty good prices, so you will often see sellers (on ebay and other sites) identify people as post mortem to enhance their final sale price. At any given time you can probably find 20- 30 bogus PMs on ebay!
Here is a great educational auction on the ebay PM scammers:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/POST-MORTEM-PHOTOS-OR-NOT-DONT-BE-FOOLED-READ-/161079062943?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item25810f719f#ht_1034wt_1255
scott
Thank you Scott for the link.
Glad to help sarah!
The PM scammers are detrimental to image collecting. Erroneous attributions (PMs, famous people, Confederate) are just as bad as reproductions being sold as authentic. Those scammed turn away from image collecting.
I try and do my part to destroy some of the attribution myths!
scott
Rob-- I hope that my discussion/ soap box time hasn't annoyed you. I just cannot pass up an opportunity for antique image education.
In no way was I trying to take away from your GREAT Frames in this posting.
scott
Scott / Sarahoff ... it was a worthwhile discussion ... I learned more about pm images.
Thanks rob-- hopefully some of the ebay buyers who are supporting the scammers will read this!
scott
Thanks, AmberRose!
Thanks, Zowie!
Thanks, Sean!
Thanks, Valentino97 ... "The Others" was a cool movie. I added a fourth image to show the rear. There is no support; however, as you can see the photographic image is held in place with a sheet of tissue glued to the frame.
Thanks, kerry10456!
Thanks, walksoftly!
Thanks, petey!
Thanks, ttomtucker!
Thanks, Manikin!
Thanks, pw-collector!
I saw three of these for sale this past week-- without CDVs. I had spent too much already for the week, so I passed. I think that the group went for about $40-- fairly reasonable.
scott
That's cool, Scott!
Thanks, aghcollect!
Thanks, Toni1969!
Thanks again, AmberRose and Manikin!
Thanks, trunkman!
You are welcome -- and thanks for educating me on paper frames -- which I had seen before but did not realize how they were made...
Love the frames...:-)
Thanks, inky!
Thanks, Lisa!
Frame--excuse spelling--Is it Gutta Percha" Sound it out.
Gutta Percha Case: Vintage & Antique (Pre-1940) | eBay
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/gutta-percha-case
eBay
Gutta Percha Victorian Acorn Oak Motif Photo Case c1860s Tintype Portrait Lady ... Antique Gutta Percha Daguerreotype Union Case Circa 1850 Picture Frame.
The cases appearing on eBay are thermoplastic. Unfortunately a lot of people mistakenly think that thermoplastic cases are gutta percha.
Thanks!
rockbat
PCC
Scott
Thanks!
Hunter
ho2cultcha