Posted 10 years ago
Lei
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It is small - a few inches across. Lovely.
Do not know history. Would like help identifying and translating mark.
Thank you.....
Pretty plate - anyone know the kiln? | ||
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Posted 10 years ago
Lei
(8 items)
It is small - a few inches across. Lovely.
Do not know history. Would like help identifying and translating mark.
Thank you.....
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Just says 'Da Qing Qianlong Nian Zhi' ('Great Qing Qianlong period make'). It's not to be taken seriously, so unfortunately it doesn't help to identify the kiln or where the plate was decorated.
Ok - why not to be taken seriously? It looks fairly new or if not new, in excellent condition. I thought it was Japanese.
The Qianlong emperor's reign was 1735 to 1796, and as you said, the dish does not pass for being 220 years old. It has just always been common for Chinese porcelain marks to refer to old emperors, and so it's not taken seriously when the piece is obviously not ancient.
Yes, I guess it is a VERY GOOD counterfeit.
In this case, I wouldn't say 'counterfeit', as it was never meant to deceive. I'm pretty sure the manufacturer and the retailers weren't pricing the dish as if it were really a 200-year-old antique.
It's the same as Keebler cookies not being counterfeit elf goods, despite Keebler ads claiming the cookies are made by elves. The claim was never meant to be believed.
This case is also different from that of knock-off designer goods made cheaply in China. Hermes and Gucci and all the rest have brands, trademarks and designs to protect from knock-offs. The Qianlong emperor does not.
All that said, there are fake antiques seriously meant to deceive out there. This just isn't one of them.
I understand the Chinese believed it to be a compliment to copy previously made items.
Thank you for your thoughts.....
actually this not bad , its missing the black dull guanghxu glazing, so it is a bit later , the garlands are good and the ferro red , actually its a quite well early republic