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BOHEMIAN FREUNDSCHAFTSBECHER c. 1958. BOR REGION - STEINSCHÖNAU

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    Posted 9 years ago

    vetraio50
    (756 items)

    Two months ago now I found this 'Fußbecher' at the monthly Wenty Collectors' Fair. It was my only buy that day and I came across it after three hours pounding the aisles!

    What surprised me was the condition of the beaker. The enamel gilding was perfect. No chips. Everything intact! It was just a bit dirty internally as you can see from the pics.

    Perhaps it is a later version of the Biedermeier style beakers produced in Bohemia by quite a few companies. A few years ago I had bought a beaker at the same market that you can see in pic.4 and I spent some researching it on the net. I returned to that site to read again the material by Walter Spiegl on the topic "Farbige und überfangene Gläser der Biedermeierzeit".

    Colour!

    The colour of this beaker really is striking. A teal colour. In the article above Spiegl mentions glass of this same colour that was created by the use of Copper. The German term for this glass is 'Kupferglas'.

    At any rate I'd appreciate any input from the CW glass fiends on this beaker.

    Enamel and gilding around the deep cut areas.

    Height: 14cm or 5.5"
    Width at lip: 9.5 cm or 3.75"
    Weight: 857 gr. 30 oz

    A very small 6 or 9 in gilt in the centre of the ground and polished pontil.

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    Comments

    1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      This is a quick link to the Walter Spiegl article:
      http://www.glas-forschung.info/pageone/pdf/farbglas.pdf
    2. Alan2310 Alan2310, 9 years ago
      Kevin this is Stunning, great find.

      Alan
    3. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks ALAN for those kind comments and to JENSEN, HO2CULTCHA, KYRANTANGO, JSCOTT & AURA too !!!!!!
    4. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks CAPERKID 'n MIKELV !!!!!
    5. SEAN68 SEAN68, 9 years ago
      ITS A WORK OF BEAUTY AND ART!!
    6. Radegunder Radegunder, 9 years ago
      Ein wunderschönes Stück!!!
    7. racer4four racer4four, 9 years ago
      I can't believe how good the enamel work still is. Gorgeous teal too.
      Worth the frustration of looking, looking looking!
    8. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 9 years ago
      Beautiful vase, my word, well worth the three hours! :)
    9. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks for the kind comments RADEGRUNDER, KAREN & KATHERINESCOLLECTIONS and for the loves thanks too to SEAN, VIOLETORANGE, WELZEBUB, SWFINLUV, SKLO & BLUNDERBUSS too !!!!!
    10. kivatinitz kivatinitz, 9 years ago
      wonderful colour indeed. It would feel good having in hand (weight and coolness)
    11. Rick55 Rick55, 9 years ago
      The color is beautiful and the gilding even better Kevin! What a special find!!
    12. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks KIVATINITZ, RÜCKLGLASS, BLUNDERBUSS & RICK too !!!!

      These beakers were usually single items I think RÜCKLGLASS .... I've never seen multiples of any kind .... not that that means it never happened though ....
    13. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 9 years ago
      It's a real beauty, vetraio! :)
    14. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks MICHELLE !!!!!!
    15. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Thanks again for the help LISA .... I do not have the book, unfortunately.
    16. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Thanks so much LISA I appreciate it !!!!
    17. antiquerose antiquerose, 9 years ago
      Love it!!! Love the Design and Colors !!
    18. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks PEASEJEAN, ANTIQUEROSE 'n ANNEL too !!!!!!!
    19. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks TREY !!!!!!!
    20. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks SCOTTIE !!!!!
    21. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks SMIATA, MOON & NICEFICE too !!!!!!!
    22. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks TONINO !!!!!!
    23. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks MACDADDYRICO !!!!!
    24. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks ANTIQUEROSE !!!!!!
    25. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks TEDSTRAUB & ANNAB too !!!!!!
    26. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks ELISABETHAN !!! !!!
    27. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks CL-ANT, ANTIQUEROSE & AURA too !!!!
    28. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks BALILES !!!!
    29. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks FREIHEIT & BALILES too!!!!!!
    30. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks VLADIMIR !!!!
    31. LuluX LuluX, 9 years ago
      Gorgeous, all good things come to those who wait ...
    32. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks LULU !!!!
    33. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks HO2CULTCHA !!!!!
    34. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks ALDO !!!!
    35. eye4beauty eye4beauty, 9 years ago
      My gosh Kevin ... You have wonderful pieces ...
    36. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks HO2CULTCHA !!!!
    37. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks KERRY !!!!!
    38. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks INDROZDENKO & ONEGOODFIND too !!!!!
    39. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks LOVELYPAT & LOVEDECANTERS too !!!!
    40. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks DARANOKES too !!!!!
    41. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 9 years ago
      Glad to be your 50th (loves).....it's a beautiful vase! Bob
    42. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      MANY THANKS ROB !!!!!
    43. Shawnl86 Shawnl86, 9 years ago
      Beautiful little Gem! Love the dark blue base color.
    44. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks SHAWN !!!!!
    45. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks AUNTMOLLY !~ !!! !!! !!! ~!
    46. IVAN49 IVAN49, 9 years ago
      A benevolent remark: I always take care if gilding is too intact (even that is being rubbed off and faked). The first flood came from Romania at 10 Deutsch Marks at the time.They did not bother much to make beakers look old and although the quality was somewhat inferior, surprisingly not recognizable in cut glass but in enamel painted flowers. In the meantime, unscrupulous dealers tried to make them look old; they used sandpaper on the base.
      Compare with image 4 here:
      http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/45438-biedermeier-beaker
      This cannot be faked: glass moved over tiny particles of dust for decades at various directions. Hundreds of years produce almost a matt surface. Having been kept safe in the cabinet or elsewhere during so many turbulent years is very unlikely.Besides, most of Bohemian beakers I found in old homes were used as vases placed everywhere with stale water and dried flowers.Even a couple of decades reveal minute scratches in various directions that cannot be faked. I find this the only reliable method of dating.
      Kindest regards
    47. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks again for your kind comments IVAN !!!! I'm as wary as you believe me. I am away from home at the moment. When I get back I will redo the pix with a shot of the base. Thanks too to MARTIKA & FREIHEIT !!!!!
    48. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Many thanks AMATOORPIKR !!! !!!! ! !!!! !!!
    49. Mrstyndall Mrstyndall, 8 years ago
      Very pretty!!
    50. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Many thanks MrsTYNDALL !!! ! !!!
    51. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Many thanks RODDYQ !!! ! !!!
    52. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago

      FREUNDSCHAFTSBECHER SKLO c. 1958.

      Persistence pays off !!! I now know that this is not an old piece of glass ... it is just sixty years old. In November 2015 I found this 'Fußbecher' at the monthly Wenty Collectors' Fair.

      Freundschaftsbecher Nr. 11572/5655, smoke, geschliffen und handgemalt in Goldreliefdekor."

      A year and a half later and I was having a look around Jindrich Parik’s fabulous site looking for some pix of a Zemek vase when I came across an article in German from the Glasrevue magazine of 1958/7:

      There it was with two other beaker with the following text in German: “ Freundschaftsbecher Nr. 11572/5654 und 11572/5655, smoke, geschliffen und handgemalt in Goldreliefdekor, sowie Nr. 11572/5653, violett, geschliffen, mit handgemaltem Dekor in Hochemail.”

      It was part of a four page article that began with this introduction:
      “Die tschechoslowakischen Glasmacher haben für Sie eine umfangreiche Kollektion von Freundschaftspokalen vorbereitet. Die künstlerische Auffassung dieser Kollektion liegt ganz in der Tradition der Formen und der Dekorationsarten. Es sind Freundschaftsgläser ähnlich jenen, die bereits Ihre Vorfahren ihren Freunden zum Zeichen der Freundschaft vor langen Jahren schenken. In diesen Jahren aber haben diese Pokale in keiner Hinsicht an Anmut verloren, in Gegenteil sie wurden geradezu klassisch. Man kann unter ihnen Kelche und Pokale aus überfangenem Email, reich verziert und bemalt, dreischichtige, vergoldete Glaser, sowie Lazurgläser mit zart gravierten Tier- oder Pflanzenmotiven finden. Es fehlen auch nicht Pokale mit Hochglasur oder andere Überfanggläser, deren innere Opalschicht zeitweilig die Vorstellung chinesischen Porzellans hervorruft. Besonders wirkungsvoll ist auch die typische Egermannsche Gravure auf Opalglas in Rubinlasur. Die ganze Kollektion der Freundschaftspokale ist ein typisches Muster der Vielfältigkeit der Dekorationskunst tschechoslowakischen Glases, das von den Glattmachern in der Gegend von Bor erzeugt wird.”

      "The Czechoslovakian glassmakers have prepared for you an extensive collection of friendship cups. The artistic concept of this collection lies entirely in the tradition of forms and types of decoration. They are friendly friends like those whom your ancestors already give their friends as a sign of friendship long years ago. In these years, however, these trophies have in no way lost their charm, on the contrary, they have become classic. Among them are chalices and cups of enamelled enamel, richly decorated and painted, three-layered gilded glasses, as well as lazur glasses with delicately engraved animal or plant motifs. There are also no goblets with high-glaze or other jets whose inner opal layer occasionally provokes the idea of Chinese porcelain. Particularly effective is the typical Egermann engraving on opal glass in Rubinlasur. The whole collection of the Friendship Pokals is a typical example of the variety of Czechoslovak glass decorations produced by the glass makers in the Bor region. "

      https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNwmJD7sr74qhr8edhqdPqQFQa8D5dLzMM40B3KFZM_iZD9lLQMc9OPs5d1DEcjIA?key=c1FxMmRTSEU4THNUY01IVmNqTkNwQmp3eUJVUTV3
    53. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Jindrich Parik has told me that the work on the beaker suggests Steinschönau rather than Novy Bor.
    54. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Many thanks NH10 & OZMARTY !!!
    55. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks DLPETERSEN !!!!!
    56. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks MRSTYNDALL & RADEGRUNDER !!!!!!
    57. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks IVAN !!!!!
    58. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks BRACKEN3 !!!!!!!
    59. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks SHELUVSJEWELRY !!!!
    60. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks THOMAS & MRSTYNDALL !!!!!!
    61. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks VYNIL & HO2CULTCHA !!!!!
    62. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks NEWFLD !!.!!.!!
    63. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks HAWKEYE !.!.!!.!.!
    64. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks ARTFOOT !.!!.!.!!.!
    65. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks NAFSSALG !.!!.!.!!.!
    66. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks APOLLO !!!!!!
    67. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 years ago
      Many thanks VYNIL !!!!!
    68. vetraio50 vetraio50, 1 year ago
      Many thanks DEANO & BEYERMANN !!!!!
    69. vetraio50 vetraio50, 1 year ago
      Many thanks FAITH.k !!!!!
    70. vetraio50 vetraio50, 1 year ago
      Many thanks COURTENAYANTIQUES !!!!!

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