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    Posted 8 years ago

    Pencil-nec…
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    ... or ceramics in general?

    I picked this up at a garage sale recently because it spoke to me - but since I believe it was speaking Thai, I couldn't understand it....

    I'm actually not sure what this is or where it was made. The family said it belonged to a g-father who was employed in the Philippines b-4 and during WWII. There is a partial label on the back that references that country, but most is gone and I don't know if it is a customs sticker or what.

    I looked online for a while and the Sukhothai Ceramics green-grey glaze with black and white inclusions fits this piece, but no luck on finding a similar design motif.

    Any help appreciated! I'm going cross-eyed looking at the interweb....

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    1. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 8 years ago
      this plate is old! and very interesting. it looks Vietnamese to me or maybe Thai or Khmer. that tight little design repeated over and over reminds me of a lot of Thai design. i'm not much help narrowing it down, but i do like it!
    2. rockbat, 8 years ago
      Gotheborg.com might have some info, sure looks familiar, maybe from a shipwreck, I think there are lots of these, but still nice.
    3. Pencil-necked-geek Pencil-necked-geek, 8 years ago
      Thanks all for the love.

      I meant to add that the folks I got this from "thought" they had a vase to match, but couldn't put their hands on it while I was there. I mention it because the ring on the bottom of the bowl looks like it was worn thusly, but actually looks like the glaze was intentionally left off. But then, the 'donut hole' is glazed with a gauzy design (almost looks like an elephant with a howdah on its' back, but could also just be a cartouche of some kind) in the center.

      They promised to call if/when a vase was uncovered.

      I REALLY hope they call....
    4. rockbat, 8 years ago
      That is the way it was fired in the kiln
    5. Pencil-necked-geek Pencil-necked-geek, 8 years ago
      I figured it was, rockbat, but after 400 years of wear, I wasn't sure. (assuming it is indeed sukhothai) So, does that mean it MUST be a vase base, or did they have another intent?
    6. rockbat, 8 years ago
      No, I believe it is a bowl/plate. These would have been stacked up very high, one on top of the other, with thousands of others, fill that kiln up.
    7. Pencil-necked-geek Pencil-necked-geek, 7 years ago
      Well, I think I got the definitive word on this item - it is a piece of 'provincial' Chinese porcelain, probably from the second half of the 19th Century. Interesting, but not particularly valuable as it turns out. Might break 3 figures on a good day.

      Oh well. It was a fun exploration.
    8. wil_hugers, 4 years ago
      This is a late swatow plate,19 century
    9. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      this is very rare probably , this is some kind of buddha,s mantra or hindi sutra , and it is dinner ware, this got IMO opinion nothing to do with swatow or Sukhothai if i am right this is very rare and very old

      you need an better expert , but he ought to be real good
    10. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
      I agree that it's Chinese, and the strange the symbols are a stylized version of sutras [prayers / chants from the Pali Kanon] in Sanskrit. It could be a Jainist piece too. These pieces are not all that common and they do sell for quite a lot. But that's pretty subjective...
    11. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      actually for me it was awfull difficult i have to shut out all the philliphines wares and that was quite tiresome , in mijn opinion it is extremely rare

      although i am social antroposofical and not technical, and i got big imagination

      i think it is used as kitchen ware , see the corossion on the inner rim, which decreases the value

      for me the most important is , when you are eating do you automatically initiate an mantra , i don,t know
    12. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
      my mantras are non-stop once in a while. i find myself chanting the heart sutra all day and night once in awhile. the zen heart sutra is the Japanese pronunciation of the sanskrit words. everything gets broken down into sounds, and meaning dissolves.
    13. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      I once in 1981 did an course in Bahktapur from a rinpoche , it was very spartan , everything was in tailors sit , and I was totally broken and we had to meditate and all I only could think of were long legged girls in fishnet stockings and a hippy asked the rinpoche could you elevate an bread ( elevation theory ) and than I quit i was done, and the rest of the time i played bridge for money in the Oberoi hotel in Kathmandu
    14. Pencil-necked-geek Pencil-necked-geek, 3 years ago
      It seems that everyone has led more interesting lives than I have (sigh)

      I do miss fishnet stockings on the ladies, though...
    15. Vynil33rpm Vynil33rpm, 3 years ago
      I’ve been everywhere man ,Amarillo ,Texarkana and Monroe
      Yes I even once wrestled a rhinoceros
      in a far away distant land

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