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    Posted 4 years ago

    Golgatha
    (217 items)

    This Chinese porcelain plate, diam. 22.5 cm, is by experts believed to be from the early reign of Yongzheng, that is around 1723. But what I can't figure out is what kind of animal one of the ladies is holding at the end of the leash ? Do you know ?

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    Comments

    1. mp.kunst mp.kunst, 4 years ago
      Is it a bird cage or a latern the man is holding?
    2. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 4 years ago
      Only see two legs so the only thing that comes to mind is a monkey of some sort or another.
    3. mp.kunst mp.kunst, 4 years ago
      That must be Lantern
    4. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      well it looks like a good expert,he discovered the kangxi influences in the piece
      actually there is no early or late yonzheng

      but if your expert finds this an early yongzheng piece , ask him why they decorated the rim bianco sopra bianco ( the rim not the whole piece !)

      its a birdcage
    5. Golgatha Golgatha, 4 years ago
      Thanks all ! Apostata, if you know something I didn't know, then please tell me !
    6. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 4 years ago
      apostata is telling you that isn't a early yongsheng piece.
    7. Golgatha Golgatha, 4 years ago
      If not early Yongzheng, then what is it ?
    8. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      it just Yongzheng ! the timespan is just 12 years,forget it it does not matter its a good plate , its getting too complicated, your expert did an excellent job
    9. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      29CM 18C Chinese Porcelain Plate Famille Rose Bianco Sopra Bianco PEACOCKS

      Shangria

      this is an COMPLETE bianco sopra , thet date it just 18 century
    10. Golgatha Golgatha, 4 years ago
      Thanks again apostata. Is the birdcage now a peacock ? You're right it's getting complicated.
    11. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      i am not a bird expert , so i probably talk bs or hearsay

      actually most birds scenes (non monocolore ! ) are coming in probably in the Yongzheng period , the famous quail scenes ( very expensive see auctionet Sweden )

      you got scenes of stray birds- peacocks and quails ( thats called liulang)

      you got them jià ni=?on perches

      and- ti long ( bird walking in cages , for bragging rights)

      the whole cultivation of the birds hype are coming from Héngfú rén, the noble banner swayers i believe

      actually cage swayers were highly respected because good songtrushes were expensive because its was of significance for the social status

      the cage is probably not big enough for , and peacocks are peacocks liulang

      so the bird is probably a - huamei or a lark or songtrush

    12. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      ps as you see most yongzheng plates , you mostly see straybirds , because the hype about this kind of plates is from 1640 on , (transitional)
    13. Golgatha Golgatha, 4 years ago
      Thanks again apostata. Strange birdcage connected to a leash as well as to a stick !
    14. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      well i got it all wrong m. p kunst is right it,s a lantern , because there is an division in it
    15. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      source Marchant collection


      90th Anniversary Exhibition of
      Qing Porcelain from Private Collections
    16. Golgatha Golgatha, 4 years ago
      So the lantern has enlightend us, so to say. Thanks again !

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