Posted 4 years ago
Trinawtrina
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Can anyone tell me what this is?? It hung on the wall at my grandmother’s house and I could never run past the plate for fear of it falling and breaking. I’m nearly 70 years old and still treat the plate like gold.
i am not an expert but it looks like mid period edo around 1760
double innercircle on bottom
single outside circle
recoil in the garlands
quadro scallop in the plate
blue rim
and the slender vase not the fat vase in the inner cartouche
gilded
for japanese porcelain this is an excellent piece !
no its even early 18 century
It is Japanese, made by Koransha. The mark represents an orchid. This mark dates to around the 1930s based on my research. Earlier marks were red, included additional characters in addition to the orchid or were impressed into the piece before glazing. I have several pieces with this blue mark so have spent a bit of time researching it. If there is other information about this mark, I would be interested in the source....
http://modernjapanesepotterymarks.blogspot.com/search/label/Koransha
https://gotheborg.com/marks/fukagawa.shtml
I have posted several other pieces with this mark on CW so search on Koransha to see more examples. I may have included more information in those posts......
i dont understand this because in the globulars they are earlier then 1868
The Koransha kiln that used this mark was founded in 1875. It may be that this piece is an homage to an earlier period.
no don,t sugarcoat this , you must be right because of the merger, so the mark is leading
this is complete 18 century design its only less rouge the fer
pooh it took a time to run this
LOT 20459399 catawiki is the compound mark i believe , but you must be right otherwise it,s an abberation
if you are right, you are right no sweat, but i dont understand it
It looks to me like Koransha was chaotic in their designs, with no singular style but many different styles represented. Not at all like their sister company Fukugawa. Maybe that is why the Fukugawa family split into two kilns. I can recognize most Fukugawa kiln pieces before I see their mark but Koransha constantly surprises me.
a minor point , i have to substantiate this type of mark at least in the 19 century , this cant be 1930 design
according the blog is the only blue mark 1930
see KAVEL 26169809 catawiki mark appears in the 19 century
but your arguments are still far better then my arguments
Could be. The history of the marks used by Koransha is not well documented. As far as I can tell, though, their earliest marks were red. I think everything I have is this single blue orchid mark, except for a sake set that has the blue orchid in a blue square. Koransha's modern mark appears to be a blue orchid accompanied by several characters...
Nice to have someone to discuss this with!
you are probably right from the the get-go because my reference to cw is partly lame because i am comparing an ferro sedimentation , is with an nonferro sedimentation which is in your favour
my compound theory is not the best because a higher sampling would appear
i think one thing is for sure the blog , aint sufficient
at least i think a proved that , but it is mock victory , you earn the credits and you deserve it
I will continue researching this and see if I can find better data.
I cannot begin to thank you enough. You have given me more insight than I could have ever hoped for. Knowing my grandmother it would make sense that it would date from the 1930’s. I only wish I would have asked what made it so special. Again many thanks. I shall look forward to any additional information.