Share your favorites on Show & Tell

Asian plare

In China and Dinnerware > Show & Tell and Asian > Japanese Pottery > Show & Tell.
LovelyPat's loves741 of 5879Josef Riedel, Polaun - Pink and White Secessionist Style VaseRoseville Pottery
7
Love it
0
Like it

LovelyPatLovelyPat loves this.
auraaura loves this.
RichmondLoriRichmondLori loves this.
fortapachefortapache loves this.
kwqdkwqd loves this.
dav2no1dav2no1 loves this.
NewfldNewfld loves this.
See 5 more
Add to collection

    Please create an account, or Log in here

    If you don't have an account, create one here.


    Create a Show & TellReport as inappropriate


    Posted 4 years ago

    Trinawtrina
    (1 item)

    Can anyone tell me what this is?? It hung on the wall at my grandmother’s house and I could never run past the plate for fear of it falling and breaking. I’m nearly 70 years old and still treat the plate like gold.

    logo
    China and Dinnerware
    See all
    INCREDIBLE QUALITY 19thC HUGE FRENCH PARIS PORCELAIN ENAMEL BIRD SCENIC VASE #1
    INCREDIBLE QUALITY 19thC HUGE FRENC...
    $255
    Vintage Aynsley England Gold Gilded Cabbage Rose TeaCup Saucer Set Signed Bailey
    Vintage Aynsley England Gold Gilded...
    $47
    Antique Teichert Meissen Blue Onion Reticulated Plates 6
    Antique Teichert Meissen Blue Onion...
    $225
    Vintage Royal Worcester Canopic Porcelain Plates 10.5
    Vintage Royal Worcester Canopic Por...
    $89
    logo
    INCREDIBLE QUALITY 19thC HUGE FRENCH PARIS PORCELAIN ENAMEL BIRD SCENIC VASE #1
    INCREDIBLE QUALITY 19thC HUGE FRENC...
    $255
    See all

    Comments

    1. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      i am not an expert but it looks like mid period edo around 1760

      double innercircle on bottom
      single outside circle
      recoil in the garlands
      quadro scallop in the plate
      blue rim
      and the slender vase not the fat vase in the inner cartouche
      gilded
      for japanese porcelain this is an excellent piece !
    2. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      no its even early 18 century
    3. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      It is Japanese, made by Koransha. The mark represents an orchid. This mark dates to around the 1930s based on my research. Earlier marks were red, included additional characters in addition to the orchid or were impressed into the piece before glazing. I have several pieces with this blue mark so have spent a bit of time researching it. If there is other information about this mark, I would be interested in the source....

      http://modernjapanesepotterymarks.blogspot.com/search/label/Koransha

      https://gotheborg.com/marks/fukagawa.shtml
    4. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      I have posted several other pieces with this mark on CW so search on Koransha to see more examples. I may have included more information in those posts......
    5. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      i dont understand this because in the globulars they are earlier then 1868
    6. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      The Koransha kiln that used this mark was founded in 1875. It may be that this piece is an homage to an earlier period.
    7. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      no don,t sugarcoat this , you must be right because of the merger, so the mark is leading
      this is complete 18 century design its only less rouge the fer

      pooh it took a time to run this

      LOT 20459399 catawiki is the compound mark i believe , but you must be right otherwise it,s an abberation
    8. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      if you are right, you are right no sweat, but i dont understand it
    9. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      It looks to me like Koransha was chaotic in their designs, with no singular style but many different styles represented. Not at all like their sister company Fukugawa. Maybe that is why the Fukugawa family split into two kilns. I can recognize most Fukugawa kiln pieces before I see their mark but Koransha constantly surprises me.
    10. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      a minor point , i have to substantiate this type of mark at least in the 19 century , this cant be 1930 design
    11. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      according the blog is the only blue mark 1930

      see KAVEL 26169809 catawiki mark appears in the 19 century

      but your arguments are still far better then my arguments
    12. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      Could be. The history of the marks used by Koransha is not well documented. As far as I can tell, though, their earliest marks were red. I think everything I have is this single blue orchid mark, except for a sake set that has the blue orchid in a blue square. Koransha's modern mark appears to be a blue orchid accompanied by several characters...
    13. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      Nice to have someone to discuss this with!
    14. apostata apostata, 4 years ago
      you are probably right from the the get-go because my reference to cw is partly lame because i am comparing an ferro sedimentation , is with an nonferro sedimentation which is in your favour

      my compound theory is not the best because a higher sampling would appear

      i think one thing is for sure the blog , aint sufficient

      at least i think a proved that , but it is mock victory , you earn the credits and you deserve it
    15. kwqd kwqd, 4 years ago
      I will continue researching this and see if I can find better data.
    16. Trinawtrina, 4 years ago
      I cannot begin to thank you enough. You have given me more insight than I could have ever hoped for. Knowing my grandmother it would make sense that it would date from the 1930’s. I only wish I would have asked what made it so special. Again many thanks. I shall look forward to any additional information.

    Want to post a comment?

    Create an account or login in order to post a comment.