Posted 4 years ago
ho2cultcha
(5051 items)
I recently learned about 'anhua' decoration - the molded design you can see in relief. I really like the underglaze blue as well on this piece. The plate is small at 5.5" across. I think the blue design is a leaf, and maybe a mat and a typical Wanli cartouche with a key design. I'm sure apostata will know more about this piece.
anhua kraak , combined floral , probably magnolia leaf , non cavetto, this is something like 1600-1620
don,t be scared it is not the falling of the first leaf motif (shunzi)
very nice but suffered a lot
IMO it aint transitional Kraak
transitional Kraak?
well they did,not stop making kraak after emperor wanli died , and transitional period is from 1620-1680, and the spread of this porcelain is likely 1590-1620 maybe a ran out to 1640 ,
Freek says it's a pretty unusual plate. do you concur?
i am biased because i like florals Wanli, so i love this , i think you ought to buy this for the beauty not for the value , the floral seen is quite rare for a quite common wanli plate , but it is not extremely rare ( i ran this) and probably value wise the convex cavetto,s plates are more valuable, so i don,t think it is that special
for the beauty there is nothing wrong value wise i think this is hard to sell because wanli plates generally are IMO in the lowers segments of the market, and there are some cracks in the plate
greetings Waki
i thought afterwards, i hope i did,not offended you, i am sorry , , i probably lack the social competence to sugarcoat my opinion, i don,t want to rub it in , but i think , this is unsellable
thanks apostata. i'm not worried about selling it. i'm more interested in the history of the things i collect. their value for me is more in what i can learn from it. i think that monetary value is often fickle and often reflects how much it is valued by the current owner.
i've been thinking about soaking this plate and one of the two i just posted in concentrated hydrogen peroxide for a couple weeks. it was recommended to me for some other, much newer pieces and it worked great for making the superficial cracks disappear. I don't want to risk ruining any of them though. do you think that this is okay to do?
one of the cracks on this plate is more than superficial, but i still think it might disappear after soaking for a couple of weeks in concentrated hydrogen peroxide.
hahaha always nice to see this plate , the most populair wanli not being an panel design they were immens popular
actually you can clean any chinese plate with hydrogen peroxide accept hongwu and canton and the bleached white late Guangxu Canton porcelain
% and up)
nowadays hydrogen peroxide is very concentraded and a few weeks is way over the top
most of the time i use baking soda , but it,s more work ,but it is easier to modify the concentration , but you have to after clean it
it is an trough and trough , i am not so fond of messing around in the obverse part of the plate
I should think you have to leave it this way