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    Posted 3 years ago

    ho2cultcha
    (5051 items)

    I think that's what they are. The larger one appears to be Japanese. All of them were made for the Thai/Southeast Asian market - maybe 19th c?

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    1. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      When Bencharong (Benjarong) is used to refer to porcelain it usually means a type of 18th and 19th centuries Chinese polychrome enameled 'five colored' wares, made in Jingdezhen to Thai (Siamese) specifications in the 18th and 19th centuries. The word derives from the Sanskrit panch rang meaning 'five colors', same as the Chinese wu cai.

      The most popular designs on the Bencharong were Thepphanom with Norasingha, where Norasingha was a minor Buddhist deity-part man, part lion and part deer, residing in the Himaphan forest, and Thepphanom with Garuda, a mythical royal bird.

      These designs were divided by a 'fire pattern' on a black background, pre-coated with green. The interior usually had an opaque green with a floral border design and an overlapping lotus on the bottom.

      Originally, in the Ayutthaya period (1677-1767) it was only for the courts in Ayutthaya, Thonburi and Bangkok and was very tightly controlled. Designs were orthodox Hindu and Buddhist, bright and very heavily decorated, and the forms were frequently Indian with stupa-shaped tiered lids. The porcelain body (the paste) and the same as any other Chinese porcelains of the same periods, but the motifs are typical Thai and adapted from traditional Thai painting.

      In the 19th century court control over the trade began to slip and more and more Bencharong porcelain was also ordered by the rich Sino-Thai business class that was in the process of taking over the Siamese economy. Many of the traditional court patterns were still followed but a lot of the production was really just intended for the South-east Asian market in general, with a few Thai flourishes here and there. More traditional Chinese forms such as teapots became decorated in the same style.

      In the later nineteenth century small-scale efforts were made to paint Chinese blanks in Bangkok and even to manufacture porcelain there, but the quality was always low.

      By the time of the Rama V period (1868-1910) the decoration had degenerated quite a bit from the very careful work (Lai Nam Thong) that one finds on earlier pieces.

      Unfortunately, with the fall of the Qing dynasty and European tableware becoming fashion in Thailand the production of Bencharong was stopped in the early 20th century. Whatever production that now occurs are the same decorative items for the souvenir and decorative trade that happens with almost all ceramic products of Asia.


      Peranakan - 'Local born'
      Peranakan meaning 'local born', is a name for the descendants of the early Chinese immigrants in the Malacca straits area, and also for their unique culture. Chinese porcelain made for the Straits-Chinese has its own unique designs often similar to the textile patterns worn by the peranakan women, called nyonyas.

      so in Holland we called this bencharong for an plethora of reasons

      i don,t know were the signing belong , but i haven,t done much efforts

      the left one looks inconsistens , thats a misunderstanding because it is completely consistent the inner red is darker to represent a ferro red , well it worked only the ferro red is of poor quality , but it is real

      this is 19 century , can,t narrow it down

      the other ones are probably still bencharong , but let,s say i have seen better maybe a sort of peoplesware, i don,t know
    2. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
      thank you apostata. so you live in Belgium?
    3. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      most of the time i live 30 clicks from Amsteram and a large part of the year i spent as a patient ( and a sort of alledged experience expert on epilepsy) in an epileptical centre and a lot of time i stay in academic hospitals because of the advanced epilepsy equipement
    4. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
      i had epilepsy as a kid, but they weren't excruciating like others i knew.

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