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    Posted 3 years ago

    ho2cultcha
    (5051 items)

    I think that these are early transfer ware pieces from Japan - turn of the 20th c. Very thin and delicate porcelain. One is marked 'Japan' with a bouquet and the other is in Japanese.

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    1. vintagelamp vintagelamp, 3 years ago
      Beautiful pattern!
    2. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      look at the left one the word japan is in it , and then look at the the american McKingley act 1891 = the word nippon annoucement obligation
      actually the further restriction and practical implementation ( because the man in street did,nt understand a f... of it was in 1921, namelijke The english word Japan was mandatory

      so it looks like what is called an theoratical .
      shut out, IMO there are more theoratical and technical shut out , but it not that important, so it is in the best case scenario an taisho 1 plate as the under limit parameter the upper parameter goed rather high as far as i know only Noritake use pictograms as addendum early

      the second plate in theory this could be late mejji , because it sells well for crooked people

      IMo you did a rather assessment about the technical state namely the taxanomy of transfer ware,

      actually the plate is known but i forgot were , so we take the tourist way
      the Kanji reads but GREAT dai nippon ,and Not dai nippon looks like splitting ants but it aint, because it coincides with the determinant of the japanese nationalism revival and that started mid Taisho 1

      let,s do it the technical way if it early or Mejji Igezara ware (compare)is not that static another kind of blue

      let,s do it the commercial by far the hype of this was taisho

      another technical way why the inconsistencies , karakusa design front and not back but lagellation is not typically meijji, so it is Taisho 1 and up
    3. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      correction flagellation design
    4. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
      thanks apostata! now i need to find someone to translate your reply!
    5. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      ok we start all over again if you say what you are missing

      and i gonna learn you if you want understanding an Ching Dynasty marks chart not the linguistic way if you want but the cognitive psychological way by means of distinction and frequency to prioritize
    6. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
      i would love that apostata! i sometimes take a long time to decipher your meaning, but it usually comes to me eventually.
    7. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      i forgot congrats with your Aster kangxi plate a week or ago , very nice

      if i got an example in the future whe comprise a whole ching dynasty chart 1644-1912
      so what looks like an overwhelming alfabet soup , ( like 60 crowfeet in the snow)we narrow to almost nothing

      so like open mouth symbol = tongzhi ( end story of story)
      ok 4 dots = kangzhi= is end of story etc etc rest is all duplication and all bullshit
    8. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      Ho-o Bird (??)
      The ho-o bird (also spelled houou) is a mythical creature adapted from Chinese mythology that incorporates parts of several creatures such as the rooster, mandarin duck, peacock, crane, and pheasant. This bird was misidentified as a phoenix or a "flying turkey" by Western consumers in the early twentieth century (Ross 2012:20,23; Walter 2012:125, 129). Ho-o birds are the main decorative element on Phoenix Ware, vessels decorated with a sometsuke transferprint (????) design that were popular exports from the early 1910s until the 1930s (Van Patten 1994:60); see Phoenix Ware (???).

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