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    Posted 3 years ago

    Grannys_Gl…
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    The lady who sold these stems to me told me that they were made by Duncan & Miller. She didn't know the line name/number of etch name/number although she thought the etch could be called 'Mandarin'. I don't have any D&M references but would like to verify their provenance. This glass stands 5 3/4 inches. The opening is 3 7/8 inches and the base is 3 inches. The etch is very 'oriental' looking. The little 'cube' on the stem has a Greek Key pattern. Thank you.

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    1. Newfld Newfld, 3 years ago
      Gorgeous etched goblet, nice find
    2. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Hi, Grannys_Glasses. :-)

      Replacements dot com does have a Duncan and Miller pattern called Mandarin:

      https://www.replacements.com/crystal-duncan-and-miller-mandarin/c/20275

      While the stem does have a cube with an etched Greek key on it, the bowl is clear.

      A further search found both the clear bowl version, and an etched bowl version; however, the one with the etched bowl doesn't have the same pattern of etching:

      https://magwv.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/B13818A5-2E8D-4D3C-BB8F-534954375554

      https://magwv.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/7EF28BDA-9496-400C-A22E-335177273316

      Both variations cite the same reference book, and archive dot org has a copy:

      https://archive.org/details/isbn_9781582210018

      However, it requires a login, so if you don't want to go that route, you could see if your local library has a copy, or can get one through a library loan:

      https://www.worldcat.org/title/fifty-years-of-collectible-glass-1920-1970-vol-2-stemware-decorations-decorative-accessories/oclc/44446100

      Or buy a copy (don't worry about that "Volume 11" as opposed to "Volume II" language in the description; it's the right book):

      https://www.isbns.net/isbn/9781582210018/
    3. Grannys_Glasses, 3 years ago
      Thank you for all the great, and useful info. The book sounds like something I need to acquire.
    4. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Grannys_Glasses, You're welcome. :-)
    5. TallCakes TallCakes, 3 years ago
      agree Duncan Miller #D1 Mandarin stem, which Duncan used with several cut and etched motifs; can't locate your particular etch, which were often done by 3rd party decoration houses. Might check with Duncan Miller on FB
      https://www.facebook.com/duncan.miller.121
    6. keramikos, 3 years ago
      TallCakes, Ah, third party decoration houses. Interesting. :-)

      However, Facebook. Ugh.

      Not to mention a FB page that you can't really explore without a FB account of your own. >8-0

      Have I mentioned my lack of love for FB lately? Oh well.

      Grannys_Glasses, In case you don't have a FB account, here is the Duncan Miller Glass Museum's website and their telephone/email contact information:

      https://duncan-miller.org/
    7. Grannys_Glasses, 3 years ago
      Thanks to both of you. I did send a query to the Museum some months ago and didn't get a response. Perhaps it is time for me to try again. I sent an ID request to replacements.com to see if they know anything, but that was recent and I haven't heard back. I generally don't have too much luck with IDs from them. I only have a Lotus reference and a Wheeling reference, so may not find the etch if is was done by an outside decorating house. May remain a mystery, and it really doesn't matter, but....inquiring minds want to know!
    8. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Grannys_Glasses, Indeed, inquiring minds want to know, but some things are stubborn mysteries.

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