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    Posted 3 years ago

    ho2cultcha
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    i bought this as an18th Century Yongzheng Chinese Porcelain plate Qing Famille Rose. But i really don't understand how it can be distinguished from Qianlong - which would have been my first guess due to the texture and color of the glazes and that little rim design - red and gold - which looks iconic for Qianlong. But i know very little compared to the folks who dated it Yongzheng.

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    1. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      you are on the right track , a good performance of you
      , rotten straw + opague = bo li lai = the coloring + overglazing

      overglaze= th= implementation on top of of thje already exisisting glazed surface
      ( stacking or accumilation effect in this case very shallow overglaze IMO

      there is no famille rose before 1720
      it looks like ruancai = soft coloring , and back to basics opposite to Yangcai , which has more colours , and more mixture of the colors

      i tend to yongzheng for the former reason , and for the reason that it is a quite simple and not an busy piece complicated (less panels etc more colored background

      The reason why the rim is this way i do i think H2O is right but it is not the
      the most important common denominator actually a diaper pattern is
      but a very good academical question , where i don,t know the answer on

    2. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
      thank you apostata. i've learned this is the Yongzheng 'Ducks' plate. i found some others online and the ones in better condition were very pricey. Also - the wide rim designs fill the empty space. Qianlong pieces tended to have more negative space which became an important element in the overall design. [or something like that!]
    3. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
      what do you mean by rotten straw, etc...?
    4. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      there are indicator,s for 18 ct porselein
      the backsite needs to have afterglaring ( light blue)
      the second is rotten straw coloring of the standing rim of the bottom
      3 browning or orange color of the front rim
      4 overglaze
    5. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 3 years ago
      thanks apostata. by 28 ct porcelain, do you mean that it's a very good piece or what? not quite sure what you mean...

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