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    Posted 3 years ago

    Aly
    (132 items)

    Picked up a really detailed wooden clock today. Just felt like sharing ;). Believe to be approximately 1920 but if anyone knows anything about this clock, please let me know.

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    1. dav2no1 dav2no1, 3 years ago
      You can add up to 4 pictures ..can we see the whole clock and not just the face...
    2. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Hi, Aly. :-)

      Beautiful clock face.

      About E. W. Payne of Bromley:

      https://8502-uk.all.biz/

      https://www.professionaljeweller.com/ew-payne-to-close-doors-after-103-years-in-bromley/

      https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/10481727.bromleys-oldest-shop-ew-payne-is-closing-down/
    3. keramikos, 3 years ago
      About Elliott London:

      https://www.clockguy.com/SiteRelated/SiteReferencePages/ElliottOfLondonHistory.html

      I presume you already have some information that makes you think the clock is 1920s vintage. Apparently, a serial number doesn't date an Elliott clock. A street name does:

      https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/dating-an-elliott-clock.63558/

    4. Aly, 3 years ago
      Thank you for the information, there is a serial number at the bottom of this one, as you can see in the new photos that I have put up. It is fully working and the tick tock is lovely to listen to. You can tell it is a good quality!
    5. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Hi again, Aly. :-)

      Thank you for adding more pictures.

      Unfortunately, a serial number (it looks like "2937 11 83") apparently doesn't date Elliott London clocks, and the information on the back panel ("MADE IN ENGLAND") doesn't give a street address. :-(

      At least we can tell from your added pictures that this is a mantle clock.

      Here's a E.W Payne/Elliott London mantel clock with the same style of face, and back panel (although the cabinet is stone instead of wood):

      https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/lot/3e72bd2a4a448778a95d527c5cacae61/0af8d24542e81eb9357e7ef448a6646f/fine-art-and-antique-sale/

      I don't know if you'd have to take off that back panel to look for a more complete address or not.

      Let's wait to see if our local expert Bruce99 has anything to say about it.
    6. Aly, 3 years ago
      I wonder if Bromley is significant? Very interesting, I have seen the stone clock as well, maybe someone has re-cased the face? Thank you for your help.
    7. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Aly, Bromley is significant in the sense that E. W. Payne Elliott operated a store in Bromley for over a hundred years (1910-2013).

      How much of that time span intersected with Elliott London might yield a clue. That is, for how many years did E. W. Payne contract with Elliott London to make clocks?

      I'm still interested in what makes you think your clock is of 1920s vintage.
    8. Aly, 3 years ago
      Very interesting, my 1920's comment was really a guess but wonder if even though serial numbers are not a way to date the clock it could be 1883?

      I am back from work so I am going to attempt to open up the back and see what is in there! Will report back on my find. Thank you

    9. Aly, 3 years ago
      Going on this https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1030273855/1941-vintage-oak-cope-nottingham-an?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_uk_en_gb_a-home_and_living-other&utm_custom1=_k_EAIaIQobChMIyd6mnNT_9gIVUO7tCh2TEgseEAQYAiABEgI4vfD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_325950048_20231967888_88478178648_pla-106550423075_c__1030273855engb_533520511&utm_custom2=325950048&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyd6mnNT_9gIVUO7tCh2TEgseEAQYAiABEgI4vfD_BwE
    10. keramikos, 3 years ago
      Hi again, Aly. :-)

      Just giving your etsy link a bit of a haircut, and an excerpt from the description:

      *snip*

      A lovely piece of English vintage craftsmanship Oak Cope Nottingham ‘An Elliott Clock’ Made in England Wind Up In Good Working Condition

      The bottom of the clock is stamped “28-41” with the last two numbers being the date it was made (1941).

      *snip*

      https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1030273855/1941-vintage-oak-cope-nottingham-an

      Unfortunately, your theory is that the "83" in the serial number stamped into the case of your clock might represent the year 1883 doesn't square with the timeline of E. W. Payne's tenure in Bromley (1910-2013).

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