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    Posted 3 years ago

    SooleyMac
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    Does anyone know where and when these are from? I am researching how to clean them without destroying them and I am curious to know their history.

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    1. dav2no1 dav2no1, 3 years ago
      Are these from the UK?
    2. mp.kunst mp.kunst, 3 years ago
      A bit of history

      https://myeasyglass.com/the-advantage-of-swing-top-glass-bottles/#:~:text=Sometimes%20called%20a%20%E2%80%9Cflip%20top,in%20popularity%20over%20the%20years.
    3. keramikos, 3 years ago
      mp.kunst, "Swing top": they make it sound so cool. };-)

      Here's the 1875 patent listing:

      https://patents.google.com/patent/US158406A/en
    4. keramikos, 3 years ago
      It looks like perhaps Grays Co-op might have been another small co-op absorbed by LCS?:

      https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F233298

      It's a bit annoying (because I got stopped by a login requirement), but here's a Google preview of a similar L.W.D. bottle stopper:

      https://images.app.goo.gl/fgi8zcNs6Pk8MrBg7

      It's somewhere on this Facebook page:

      https://www.facebook.com/LondonMudlark/

      The partial text from Google:

      "LWD operated bottling dairies in Wood Lane and Vauxhall in London. This china stopper dates from around 1935 and is from a bottle that would have contained..."

      If you have a Facebook account, you can probably see more (I don't, and thus can't).
    5. SooleyMac SooleyMac, 3 years ago
      I don't have Facebook, saves my sanity. China not ceramic? Interesting!!!!
    6. SooleyMac SooleyMac, 3 years ago
      @dav2no1 yes - found in a clay dump site near London
    7. keramikos, 3 years ago
      SooleyMac, I getcha about Facebook.

      FYI, that description about the stopper being "china," as opposed to "ceramic" is largely semantics. China AKA porcelain is a form of ceramic:

      *snip*

      A ceramic is any of the various hard, brittle, heat-resistant and corrosion-resistant materials made by shaping and then firing an inorganic, nonmetallic material, such as clay, at a high temperature. [1][2] Common examples are earthenware, porcelain, and brick.

      *snip*

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramic

      *snip*

      Porcelain is a material made from well-chosen porcelain clay or pottery stone through technological processes like proportioning, molding, drying and firing. Although porcelain developed from pottery, the two are different in raw material, glaze and firing temperature; compared with pottery, porcelain has tougher texture, more transparent body and finer luster. It excels pottery in both pragmatic and artistic terms. That's why it gradually replaced pottery in the ceramic history. It is called china in English because it was first made in China, which fully explains that the delicate porcelain can be the representative of China.

      *snip*

      https://en.unesco.org/silkroad/content/chinese-porcelain

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