Posted 2 years ago
kwqd
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This hand painted bowl is 4.5" in diameter x 2" high, signed on the bottom. Kind of looks like the Wanyu mark on the Gotheborg web site which led me to a few examples of similar bowls and cups on ebay.. So maybe 1919-1940?
There are some remains of red paint on the bottom of the bowl, and I THINK I could just make out "MADE" and "CHINA" before I washed it which I THINK removed some of the red paint. Cold painted? I have to stop eating mushrooms before going thrift shopping!
Anyway, there are a few interesting things about this bowl.
First, there are four "manji", Buddhist "swastikas", on the inside of the bowl. They may have been two red and two blue ones, but the blue ones were painted gold, some of which has worn off. There was once A LOT of gold on this bowl, inside and out, but much of it is worn off.
Second, every time I think to myself, "Man! Porcelain cannot get thinner than this!", I have to recant that statement, but this IS the thinnest porcelain I have ever held in my hands. Very thin.
Third, there are many translucent inclusions in the porcelain which allow light in and out. I took one image in the dark with a candle in the bowl to show this. I do not know how this was done, or why. Some research suggests this may be called " rice eyes" or "rice grains" decoration? Still researching this.
There are so many things I do not understand about this bowl, especially since I know nothing about Chinese pottery, so throwing myself on the mercy of my fellow CWers!
$1.99 from the same store where I recently found my Hopi bowl. A store full junk except for one thing each time I have gone there. To plump up my bill enough to use my credit card, I did have to buy a rose lidded Bohemian glass crystal bowl, so maybe not junk, just not my kind of junk. Here is the twin to the Czech bowl on ebay, but no label on mine:
https://tinyurl.com/2p8czwn9
Just under $5 for the pair.
Beautiful porcelain bowl, really cool when illuminated - you have the best Asian pieces Kevin, great collection
I think is much newer.... when I left my mother home the first tableware I bought for myself was in the patter that we call rice grain... grano de arroz. This one has stamped "Made in China" in red. Here is an interesting post
https://watersilkdragon.wordpress.com/2015/12/07/deconstructing-the-rice-grain-pattern-late-qing-to-prc/
Thanks for your comments, Jenni!
What great resource, kivatinitz! I took a quick look at it and my first thought was that my bowl is all hand painted, not transfers, but not sure how that fits into this analysis. I will have more time to look into this later today. Interesting to discover that this ware is still, or very recently been made.
Thanks for checking out my Chinese bowl Manikin, kivatinitz, Watchsearcher, Jenni, PhilDMorris, fortapache, dav2no1 and jscott0363!
Based on the link above and that this bowl is hand painted (no transfers), what appears to be an export (China) mark that was stamped after glazing, use of manji marks, and the style of decorations, I think this bowl probably is pre Republic, so made before 1949. The site loosely, and not very confidently, dates the mark on the bottom to 1920-1970 and also notes the growing use of transfer ware during the Republic period, lending more support for dating it 1920-1949. Logically, it does not seem like good marketing to have a swastika like design on pottery being exported to the West during the 1940s-1970s and I think exports from China probably dwindled during WWII, so perhaps 1920-1940 is more likely. Not sure how authoritative this site is but the compiler seems to have put a great deal of effort into their research.
Definitively your bowl it is not common
difficult , try to narrow it, you both did a hell of so i haven,t got much to add,
i tried to narrow it on qianjiang cai rim , but it won,t help , becausae the diffrence of luster is hard to sea , and thet got a wide spread
IMO it is painted, you got stroke and dots and density difference , and in the blue lets say diaper are 4 red read dots , but they are incongruant , the stamped stuff is congruant like in the 60 the decapitated ruyi bowl borders
it is easy to shut out almost all the late zongghy jingde zhing by means of standaard stamping
lets try to shut to shut them by means of freuquentcy, the most of the very later Rebublican periode are YINDezhen PIN and PIN means product of in the left of the mark appears a stacked square ( chinese call it dogfood marks)
non sketchy style ( non scrivere) on the grunula and leaves
buddest symbols in red is no indication , because it is just bhuddisme for chinese
rude buddist symbols or Babao , on the reverse, rather well indication
it is marked 2 characters , i don,t know the mark
it stamped stamped china , zie tariff act, but is looks and the read dotting seems real !! ferro read
so actually it think it is EARLY ,---early republik, something like 1920 or a , just a few years up , but i am not into Linglong, just geussing
addendum you both did a hell of of a JOB, nice effort , so who am i
did i miss something f,,, , no airbubbles in the stroking , looks good to me, lets wait and see
Thanks for your comments and help, waki! For sure you have forgotten more about Chinese pottery than I will ever know, so I always appreciate your input!
A big thanks to kivatinitz, too! I appreciate your research, experience and willingness to share your knowledge.
Thanks for checking out my bowl Vynil33rpm, Kevin, Manikin, kivatinitz, Watchsearcher, PhilDMorris, fortapachef, dav2no1 and jscott0363!
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Pater Gratia Oriental Art
Chinese Chronology and Marks
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Chinesische Reiskornschüssel/Tasse, handbemalte Doucai-Emaille, Kangxi-Marke -ursprünglichen Titel anzeigen
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ebay closed ad symbols in the kangxi ( revival way , doucai revival )
Thank you, Sir! That is very interesting!
i got a farfetch theory if you date the kangxi revival they probably don,t come in ealy let,s from 1880 and the difference whith the watersilkdragon examples is the precious marks (emblems from the former kangzhi lozenge )pater Gratia oriental art ) sacred fungus etc rhe old symbols etc and the other example in the collateral ferro , you have, maybe possible a got a small time spread as explanation
it is farfetched , but i still believe it is Early -early republic, and now i stop
You are teaching me, even as try to resist learning about Chinese pottery!
Thanks, Manikin!
This post Kevin!
Nice bowl, fabulous research and comments!!
Thanks, Karen! This was a fun one!
Thanks, Faith.k!