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    Posted 12 months ago

    Faith.k
    (65 items)

    Cute little jar vase my kids picked up at goodwill for 4 dollars, and gave me for a Christmas gift. I don't think it's worth a great deal, but I do love the colors. I think it said CHINA on the bottom, researching puts it possibly 1891 to 1920, likely the later part, 1900+, and was made for export. It originally had a lid, which may have had another child on it. Any info about age and place of origin greatfully appreciated! Is about 6" tall.

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    1. Newfld Newfld, 12 months ago
      Lovely thoughtful gift, the characters in the scene are adorable
    2. apostata apostata, 12 months ago
      Meaning "the green family". Overglaze enamel decoration on export and Imperial porcelain. Developed during the Ming dynasty from multicolored decorations with tranclucent enamels, applied during secondary firing/s on glazed porcelin. By the end of the 16th century formalized into Wanli wucai - Wanli five color enamels - then further into Kangxi wucai and what now by mostly western scholars is recognized by its French name Famille Verte. The colors are usually red, green, yellow, blue and black. Which name that best describes a certain "five-color decoration" depends on the style of the decoration, where we by "Famille Verte" should assume a Kangxi style and period porcelain shapes and decoration.

      On earlier wares the blue is often under the glaze as it is not until later in the period that overglaze blue was successfully fired and the wucai was fully developed into the famille verte stage.

      this is the official version of the kangxi multicolor lets say 1700 flat, a bit strange because where is all green colour , still solid assesment IMO

      you get them as so called naked pieces and lets say elaborate, i don,t know the official name it is different by countries

      normally it is called diaper design or geometric famille verte

      whele they revived it TONGZHI and GUANGHU style and early republic
      it is hard toexplain , real good tongzhi and guangxu is also expensive, hard to explain, because we discussing thick wallets here

      i always told , we need walnut eyes , orange lining , and pious looks , and as an escape (the guangxu part ) we need an FLOATING TOMATO ( orange cirkel in the design

      so conclusion we are shut out for guangxu or better

      well that,s no sweat because early republic will suffice , but we still walnut eyes to get decent value

      What happened to the mark, almost all the early republic marks to get value out of it are painten and got an different color and shaping

      IMO this is an dipping application it is not made before 1960



    3. Faith.k Faith.k, 12 months ago
      Thanks Apostata! Always something new to consider, didn't know all those glaze and shape clues to look for, but being it's from my kids, it'll be a keeper, am guessing that it's at least worth the 4.00 they paid for it! I think the paint job seems well done, at any rate.
    4. Faith.k Faith.k, 12 months ago
      Question for Apostata, what is a dipping application?
    5. apostata apostata, 12 months ago
      actually you can all forget this , because this is not expensive stuff

      there are different types of stamping , like rubber stamping ,lor transfer application,or template application

      rubber stamping is easy to recognize, if you use rubber stamping ( like toddlers on an alphabet stamp), if you press hard , the fluidum disperses , so the lining gets an accumulation , so the periferie is always darker than the inner part ( principle of uneven prsessure and the effect , of pressure of the elevation the stamp in it self

      when you got an or transfer- tenplates etc , this is not much dispersion in the fluidum , it looks all the same ( most of the jengdezhin marks)

      here there is agglutination and elevation , it is very dense , it is not likely they overdubbed,it , why doing that much work for an affordable piece

      more likely is that the emulsion of the fluidum is of a bad qualitiy , or the application take a while, the fluidum denses

      the other option which is highly unlikely , thats it is not dependable on the fluid application but on the glazing,ground , with this type of glazing it is impossible otherwise you should have had air bubbling or popping

      it is always the question is the substrate (+ the underlying glazing + heat effect the culprit or the application

      in new porcelain it is 99 out of 100 the application
    6. Faith.k Faith.k, 11 months ago
      Thank you Apostata, I think I understand what you mean, and it makes sense, I just thought it'd been applied by a 3 year old! (Just kidding, but it was odd to me, since the painting of the piece seems well thought out, to have a rough and sloppy mark. Perhaps not applied by the person who painted the jar.
    7. apostata apostata, 11 months ago
      we will gonna do this the cascade falls, no sweat

      the outer lining is more ( the periferie lining is more dark than the inner part
      so there is uneven pressure, because, the letters in the stamps got a higher surface the the surrondings

      if you press on somethinf the liquad diperses , so the inner letters are more light then the outer lining of the letters

      between letter one and letter 2 is even agglutination ( glutting ) the letters ON are from origen RAISED , because otherwise there is nothing to stamp

      because the agglutinatie is between letter 1 and letter 2 is significant
      they used a lot of fluid

      so probably the fluid source , which is overdone,is called bij an abunce of fluid ,which almost gives an effect of dipping
    8. apostata apostata, 11 months ago
      otherwhise see the effect of lacquere seals
    9. Faith.k Faith.k, 11 months ago
      Thank you Apostata!

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