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    Posted 5 months ago

    DrScott
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    Interesting jar with a recessed lid. Best estimate is Meiji period, but unsure, will even concede to Taisho period (as has been stated as it is of the theme of the period). Can not determine the mark on the base (still can't find anything about the mark anywhere I research). Any information would be very helpful. Really appreciate the insight that Vynil33rpm pointed out in regards to one of the pictures. Figured I should just give a shout out for that.

    So another piece of information, this was sold to a collector in 1991, and when it was originally sold, it went for approximately $1,500.00 at that time. I know the collectors history, and I have tried to track down who sold it, but most of the original receipt is missing, so I have the line item, and subtotal and tax, etc. It was included in a box of paperwork that I just recently was going through. Anyways, I'm sure this doesn't help, but it could give context. Most of the items that this collector had in his collection were considered antiques when he purchased them, so given 1991, that would have put it about 1890 or so for the antique label to be applied, but it was a bit more lenient back in those days when it came to vintage/antique labels.

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    1. kwqd kwqd, 5 months ago
      Possibly Kutani.
    2. kwqd kwqd, 5 months ago
      If the consensus is Kutani, for $15 this site will assess the piece. I have had assessments done and when it turned out the piece was not Kutani, they refunded my money.
    3. kwqd kwqd, 5 months ago
      https://www.kutani.org/
    4. kwqd kwqd, 5 months ago
      Really a covered jar.....
    5. apostata apostata, 5 months ago
      i am this for hours it but can,t break it, it outplays the common databanks in the ZAN/YAMA and it is not a KAKIHAN
      hope to be back , he is barking up the wrong tree , he needs Imre Nagy from Asain art forum ,
    6. apostata apostata, 5 months ago
      well again it is all sizzle no stake megalomanic hillbilly assesment , because i don,t know it at all

      what is it , IMO it is a common sakura ( sherry blossom , so not the the sakura in the more leave blossom yaezakura way )

      this might solve maybe the sakura - UME ( plum) discussion

      The sakura,s represents the shortliveness and momentariness , i thought there was annual celabration in honour of it in Japan

      can,t break the kanji ( not skilled enough) so i to break by means of styling in a VERY spurious way, namely to shut out by means of absence of the SHIMAZU MON ( clan ) and a not closed frame signed signing or gold lustre signing

      tried this on kakihan ( personal scribble of the maker, silch )
      another non significant hillbilly remark why is the crackle not flooded ( the sedimentation ) when it is that old,( this might raise some doubts )and why the red part of the signing that RED

      so my not significant assesment is , it is probably later, something like taisho and a bit on ( later) IMO it is out of style to be MEIJJI

      how about the quality

      another hillbilly assessment , which has worked rather well i believe :difference in tonality and shading effect in the stumps of the branch and difference in relief

      i think it is awfull WELL

      another criterium, sounds ridicoulous , but is really important , did we stayed inside the lines, YEP is it a decal NO

      so actually i don,t care a F,,, ( no skill) about the dating , it is sufficient quality and it ought to run reasonable well






    7. Vynil33rpm Vynil33rpm, 5 months ago
      Your welcome

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